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Ok, that makes some sense. Then these are circumcised proselytes. Are they believers in Christ already? Romans 1:6 KJV — Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ: If they are believers in Christ, circumcised so that they are Gentiles, but Jews, Then they must be Kingdom of Israel...

Yes, that's correct. Open Theism thinks that "I will go down now and see" and "if not, I will know" means that God did not have some information that later He would have. God is an Open Theist. God knew something, but He didn't know something else. There is disagreement among Open Theists about...

Why not? If it tells us something about the body of Christ, we should listen, not just assume it doesn't apply. This us what we say againat traditional theists when they take passages that say God learns something and say it cannot mean what it says. In other words, our theological system...

Can you explain this? Is it because MAD says they were Jewish proselytes before Paul had a chance to have some fruit among them?

Bump so I remember to reply.

It is unlikely that he will change his mind, but he could. Repentance (change of direction, not turning from sin) is possible, but based on a few factors, it is unlikely in @way 2 go’s case. He isn’t currently addressing even the arguments presented, so how would he be convinced by them...

Are you kidding? Did you not read his last 2 posts at all?

Maybe. But that is open theism. If God's knowledge increases, it doesn't matter where the information comes from. it only says when they "fall to the ground", right? be careful of extrapolating. God might have told His angels to let Him know if any sparrows die. Did God know, at the foundation...

If you read the passages about how God knows things, it becomes more clear. God "searches" our hearts to see if there is any wicked way in us. He "numbers" (counts) the hairs of our heads. If these passages mean what they seem to say, then God acquires information that He didn't have before. God...

And you're doing the same thing with Rev 22:19. If it's ok for you to filter the whole bible through ONE verse, which is what you've said the word of faith followers are doing (except that they use 2 verses), yet you admit in this post I'm responding to that open theists filter the whole Bible...

Are you really prepared to say that you know exactly what that passage means, despite 2000 years of scholars debating what it means? And that you will interpret all the rest of tge bible based on your understanding of those verses? That's astounding! And now your only comment is to try to lump...

Logic aint all it's quacked up to be.

Was Jesus then talking about an old church that He was going to add to? (I lost track of this thread, so forgive me if I've asked that already.) The text allows for that, I think, when Jesus says He will "build my church", but I don't think it does when talks of building it on the foundation of...

I congratulate you on your patience.

Not to mention that @Bright Raven probably never heard of them before he started looking for anti-Open Theism sites.