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  1. Jose Fly

    Gen Z: Least Christian generation in US history

    Gen Z Is the Least Christian Generation in American History, Barna Finds Teenagers today are the most non-Christian generation in American history as only four out of 100 teens hold a true biblical worldview and one out of every eight teens identify as non-heterosexual, a new survey released by...
  2. Jose Fly

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The Bible may say that the earth "hangs on nothing", but it's just as clear that the earth is sitting on pillars (1 Samuel 2:8)..."for the pillars of the earth are the Lord's, and he hath set the world upon them"
  3. Jose Fly

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I think a lot of Christians here at ToL (maybe even a majority) would agree with you on that. The main difference between them and you seems to be merely over which aspects of cosmology are part of this atheistic conspiracy.
  4. Jose Fly

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I don't know what that is. Just because a conspiracy is ineffective, that doesn't mean the conspiracy doesn't exist, right? ;) Sure. Dave, what do you think is the motivation behind the spherical earth conspiracy?
  5. Jose Fly

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The existence of hundreds of millions of "Christian evolutionists" suggests the above just isn't true. I suspect it's the same as what creationists argue, i.e., that if Satan can convince you to go with the conclusions of science over the truth of God's Word, then it's that much easier to get...
  6. Jose Fly

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Well, I suppose I could jump in and attempt to debate a flat-earth vs. spherical-earth, but IMO some things are just too ridiculous to debate. Instead I preferred to note the obvious parallels between Dave's rationale and framework and those from some of the creationists here he's arguing with...
  7. Jose Fly

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Oh, I think it's a very valid point. It may be a point that some folks would rather not have to think about or deal with, but it's still quite valid. Exactly. Yet some here do that sort of thing fairly regularly with groups they don't like....gays, Muslims, Catholics, atheists....
  8. Jose Fly

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Funny how that works with some subjects and beliefs, but not others. :rolleyes:
  9. Jose Fly

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Dave has made it quite clear that just like with his creationist beliefs, his flat-earth beliefs stem from Christianity. In other discussions here over the years I've seen Christians cite extreme and/or crazy beliefs of a few members of a group as reflective of that group as a whole....Muslims...
  10. Jose Fly

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Isn't Christianity fun? :chuckle:
  11. Jose Fly

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Then we all should be used to it, since that's no different than what we've seen from 6days and the other creationists around here. They all pretty much operate according to that framework, the only difference being which areas of science they apply it to. For Dave it's the shape of the earth...
  12. Jose Fly

    A demonstration of the nature of creationism (and 6days)

    Since I joined ToL, I've made it pretty clear that the main reason I'm here is for entertainment. Specific to interacting with creationists here, it's the entertainment value in watching them contradict themselves and do everything they can to deny reality. This comes from my years of...
  13. Jose Fly

    Fake news: Gobbled up by conservatives, debunked by liberals

    We Tracked Down A Fake-News Creator In The Suburbs. Here's What We Learned So they tracked the guy down and he agreed to an interview. Huh....imagine that. :think: I think this is going to be an emerging theme in the coming months and years....Trump voters were duped and conned, both by...
  14. Jose Fly

    Obama's approval ratings higher than Reagan's

    Barack Obama is now viewed more positively than Ronald Reagan was in 1988 President Barack Obama is now at 52% approval according to and at 56% according to Gallup. Reagan was at 51% at the end of his second term. The only president in recent times to exceed either of them? Bill...
  15. Jose Fly

    Trump holds up LGBT rainbow flag at rally

    Donald Trump Waves LGBT Rainbow Flag at Colorado Rally Huh. :think:
  16. Jose Fly

    Video: Trump says women are to him as alcohol is to alcoholics

    Yuck. :vomit:
  17. Jose Fly

    The Federalist: Elect, then impeach, Trump

    If you ever wanted a clear indication of just how awkward things are between the Republican Party and their nominee for President.... The GOP Needs to Elect Trump, then Impeach him And just what would they impeach him for? Meh....they figure he's so corrupt and such a womanizer, he'll do...
  18. Jose Fly

    I wonder if evangelicals realize what they're telling the GOP?

    One of the genuine messages I thought Trump used to connect with evangelicals was basically telling them that they've been played by the GOP over the last few decades. The Republican Party would run candidates for national office and include as part of their agenda stacking the Supreme Court...
  19. Jose Fly

    This is how science is done

    Carl Zimmer is a successful and highly-regarded science journalist, and last month he wrote a fascinating description of an amazing research project... A Single Migration From Africa Populated the World, Studies Find And lest anyone think the scientists involved just sat around and "assumed...