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  1. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    I believe the world was made in six days flat.
  2. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    Sure. I was asked this a long time ago, and my answer's the same, even though I myself wasn't yet theologically Catholic, let alone a convert, way back then. We are spiritually and mystically one body, but there is great division and factions on the earth right now between us. But it needn't...
  3. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    He is our High Priest forever, agreed?
  4. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    Rejection of the Real Presence didn't have any credibility as an idea until the Reformation. That's almost 1500 years of zero disputation, so what's wrong with calling it the Protestant view, alluding to the Protestant Reformation, which is when Christians first started to entertain this...
  5. Idolater

    Guns!

    My phone has a feature where when I dial 911 the GPS automatically turns on so they can find me if I need help.
  6. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    His shed blood being payment for sin requires a liturgical framework in order to be valid, and not just some random death that was after the fact proclaimed to be fulfillment of prophecy. This framework is the New Covenant, not the Old, which of course didn't have any part of it concerned with...
  7. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    And if the Real Presence is true, then logically you're the sad ones. Agreed?
  8. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    I agree with @brewmama's argument. It's like how I agree with Catholicism's ethics. I don't make the argument to support my ethics, I just say I'm Catholic. I have Catholic ethics.
  9. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    These words have no meaning.
  10. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    I indicated that. Meaning, there's no such thing as valid liturgy for believers in Christ. Oh. The Church is riven. It can't get any more divided!
  11. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    Him who?
  12. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    I can't believe I have to thank someone for reading what this thread's about before posting in it, but here we are: Thank you. The only one that cannot be concisely explained is the 'call no man father' bit. There is an answer, but it isn't brief. All the other charges about how Catholicism...
  13. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    No they don't. I used to be a Protestant before I reasoned about Scripture at a high enough level to see how plain the liturgical argument for Orthodoxy and Catholicism is, it's a flat scriptural argument, and there isn't a credible alternative to the very literal interpretation of the Bible in...
  14. Idolater

    This is Murica

    Difference being, gun-toting isn't one day going to be replaced by driverless electric tractors churned out by Tesla.
  15. Idolater

    Ethics and morals

    You can say that he is a moral man, but does his putative ethics match your ethics? Ethics is a claim to be right and not only a personal choice made privately. Living a particular way is exclusionary to all the other lifestyle choices. All I'm willing to say is that pursuing weekly Mass and...
  16. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    Your view is the Protestant view. It is the same view as the atheist view, I point out, just because it is a fact, and not to be offensive. Your view is that, during the one Church's valid liturgy, the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist is fiction. It doesn't matter if you don't believe...
  17. Idolater

    chrysostom

    It's definitely Apostolic, it's even explicit in the Didache. Too bad (for Protestants) that it's not explicit in the Bible, and that they don't heed the Didache, not even as evidence about what the earliest Church believed was right and wrong, as if that carries any weight (the Didache ----...
  18. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    It's a matter of liturgy ---- you know this. They can and many do teach valid truths and soteriological or salvific truth, but they don't celebrate Church, Christian liturgy, you know that 'priest work' is called 'liturgy,' and there's such a category as authentic liturgy for the Church. We...
  19. Idolater

    Ethics and morals

    Catholicism imposes a set of ethical judgments, to form some fixed ethical points in the ethical thought of Catholics. E.g. pursue going to weekly Mass, chastity (fleeing sexual perversion), and other completely familiar values. Except for these few fixed points, there is complete latitude in...
  20. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    Try to stay on topic boys. I know it's tough. Topic being: Your view of the Eucharist (which is that same view as all atheists) was homogenized in a blender and then poured down the sewer. Plenty of Dispensationalists participated in the debate. And none of them could stop it. Jesus Christ...
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