Husband&Father
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Please read and comment (only 1000 or so words).
https://juicyecumenism.com/2016/11/01/abortion-compromise/
https://juicyecumenism.com/2016/11/01/abortion-compromise/
Abortion Exceptions (Written pre election)
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glassjester
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I agree. No law that ends with, "And then it's ok to kill the baby" is a just law.
In the link - good responses to the two most popular "exceptions" to pro-life:
Daniel1769
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Dr. Allan Gutmacher of Planned Parenthood said, "Today it is possible for almost any patient to be brought through pregnancy alive, unless she suffers from a fatal illness such as cancer or leukemia, and, if so, abortion would be unlikely to prolong, much less save, life."
Alan F. Guttmacher, “Abortion—Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow,” in The Case for Legalized Abortion Now (Berkeley, Calif.: Diablo Press, 1967).
Alan F. Guttmacher, “Abortion—Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow,” in The Case for Legalized Abortion Now (Berkeley, Calif.: Diablo Press, 1967).
That's a bunch of nonsense- such a situation is not comparable to a fireman in a burning building. In most unfortunate cases, it becomes pretty clear beforehand that one can save the mother or try to birth the child and probably die.
I think you all have no good judgement on the matter at all because your bias is no longer pro-life at this point, it's just bias.
A mother can live and produce another child, or not leave her other children without a mother.
But you all don't think that far- you don't even want to acknowledge that fetuses were property in the Old Testament, as the rate of babies being born and making it past their first year was like a lottery anyway.
glassjester
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In most unfortunate cases? Name one condition, for which abortion is the cure.
Would you be willing to use that argument to support infanticide?
ALL of them. Life saving abortion is not as rare as you all think- you want all these women to walk through the valley of death to maybe save an unborn fetus than to live another day and produce another.
I think you all are full of it, and the only reason your church won't back down is because they don't want to contradict their past popes' ridiculous declarations on the matter. That's their religion, not the welfare of man.
As for these 'evangelicals', well, they're just idiots, plain and simple. Even the Earth being round is a major concession for them.
How about matricide :idunno:
And infant is a born child. A fetus is not.
glassjester
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You want the name, place, and date of a random woman who received one :idunno:
Just your denial making you talk gibberish
All you people know how to do is side step.
In a circle
like your logic.
Daniel1769
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You want the name, place, and date of a random woman who received one :idunno:
Just your denial making you talk gibberish
All you people know how to do is side step.
In a circle
like your logic.
Can you cite any instances? If you don't know of any, you can't say they're common. You're pulling it out of thin air.
glassjester
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No. Just the name of 1 condition, for which abortion is the necessary treatment.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
Jeremiah 16:12
glassjester
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Uh oh. Is that aimed at Crucible or me?
glassjester
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Oh, ok. Abortion is the necessary treatment for that?
That's a shame. Seems like holding a baby might actually improve that condition.
glassjester
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It's a fine strategy, on the Devil's part. Don't let the evil-hearted have their babies. They might actually become selfless. He'd lose himself a soul.
The condition in which the fetus is causing a hemorrhage or rapid infection; a woman could bleed out or die of a fever. Among several other complications which can occur, none are new- the success rate of birth was alarming before modern science, and still modern science is not infallible.
You may as well stop the 'dumb act', it happens and you all are really saying that the woman should die. Stop trying to blur that reality or sweeten the issue :wave2:
glassjester
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What's the medical name of this condition? I would like to read about it.
No you don't, otherwise you would have already.
You all labor under denial, and that is why you get exactly zero accomplished on abortion.
Just because liberals managed to get far on arbitrary dogmas and emotion doesn't mean that Christians can do the same- stop being a bunch of hypocrites: in the same way the Left lost due to calling everyone bigots instead of making an impression, so to do you lose in doing things like calling abortion murder.
I've pretty much had it with people throwing themselves up on a cross- the difference between them and a real martyr is that a martyr actually makes a change.
You all simply make fools of yourselves.