I wonder if evangelicals realize what they're telling the GOP?

Jose Fly

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One of the genuine messages I thought Trump used to connect with evangelicals was basically telling them that they've been played by the GOP over the last few decades. The Republican Party would run candidates for national office and include as part of their agenda stacking the Supreme Court with conservative justices who will overturn Roe v. Wade, but once elected, they would forget all that and start cutting taxes for the wealthy, deregulate Wall St., and generally implement their secular neo-conservative agenda (a la George W. Bush and Dick Cheney).

But with just about everyone jumping off the Trump wagon, we're seeing that it's mostly evangelical Christians who are sticking with him. And most of what I've seen indicates that abortion is one of the primary reasons.

But doesn't that just tell the Republican Party that evangelicals will stick with any candidate, no matter how crude, offensive, immoral, and unpopular he is, so long as he promises to stack the Supreme Court?

IOW, it's the opposite of one of the main messages Trump started off with. It's evangelicals telling the Republican Party "You can just keep right on playing us".
 

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Evangelicals aren't the brightest crayon in the box. Well, most of them anyway.
Spreading 'easy believism', which they are almost entirely responsible for, makes the label 'evangelism' completely loaded.

They're as promising with their claimed identity as they are with politics, so :plain:
 

Morpheus

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There is a big difference between true evangelicals whose purpose is to spread the gospel and the political "evangelicals" who use Christianity as a tool to lead the weak minded to a political party. These political evangelicals are exactly the same perversion of Christianity as the Taliban and Isis are to Islam.
 

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One of the genuine messages I thought Trump used to connect with evangelicals was basically telling them that they've been played by the GOP over the last few decades...

Many evangelicals are being "played" by a professional con man.

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Why isn't Donald Trump running as a democrat Mr. Fly, after all he embraces all of the supposed 'values' that you and other democrats have?
 

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There is a big difference between true evangelicals whose purpose is to spread the gospel and the political "evangelicals" who use Christianity as a tool to lead the weak minded to a political party. These political evangelicals are exactly the same perversion of Christianity as the Taliban and Isis are to Islam.

Tell us how you can be a "true evangelical" Morpheus and still vote for the pro abortion, pro anti-family values, pro socialist Democratic Party.
 

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Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Tell us how you can be a "true evangelical" Morpheus and still vote for the pro abortion, pro anti-family values, pro socialist Democratic Party.


You don't like Trump either, right?

Was it the 1,000+ posts that I've written exposing the fraud that gave it away?

So, who are you gonna vote for, a "write in?"

Darrell Castle of the Constitution Party.

Since none of TOL's democrats answered my above question, let me change it a bit and you can have a shot at it:

Tell us how you can be a "true evangelical" Morpheus Grosnick Marowbe and still vote for the pro abortion, pro anti-family values, pro socialist Democratic Party Donald Trump?
 

Morpheus

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Tell us how you can be a "true evangelical" Morpheus and still vote for the pro abortion, pro anti-family values, pro socialist Democratic Party.

I've already gone through the explanation several times over the years on here, and since you couldn't grasp it then I'm sure your cognition hasn't improved since. Yet to say it simply now, when neither party actually wants to stop abortion (Dems openly claim it and Reps, even though they lie and claim otherwise, don't want to lose their prime wedge issue that keeps the naïve single-issue voters hanging onto hope. Note that the Rs have never actually done anything more than token minor legislation to change it.) Hence most Republicans are like Trump, claiming pro-life so they can pass volumes of other legislation that any caring Christian should be fighting against. Both parties stink, but I weighed them by the totality of the legislation they actually pass.

Evangelism isn't politics and politics isn't evangelism. Politics, like advertising, is scamming people into buying things they really don't need. A wise Christian must be similar to a smart consumer who sees through all the hype.
 

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Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Tell us how you can be a "true evangelical" Morpheus and still vote for the pro abortion, pro anti-family values, pro socialist Democratic Party.

I've already gone through the explanation several times over the years on here, and since you couldn't grasp it then I'm sure your cognition hasn't improved since.

While memorizing word for word each post that you write has always been a top priority for me, those posts must have slipped by me. Perhaps you could give us a light version of how you can be a Christian and stand for things that God abhors?

Yet to say it simply now, when neither party actually wants to stop abortion (Dems openly claim it and Reps, even though they lie and claim otherwise, don't want to lose their prime wedge issue that keeps the naïve single-issue voters hanging onto hope. Note that the Rs have never actually done anything more than token minor legislation to change it.) Hence most Republicans are like Trump, claiming pro-life so they can pass volumes of other legislation that any caring Christian should be fighting against. Both parties stink, but I weighed them by the totality of the legislation they actually pass.

Evangelism isn't politics and politics isn't evangelism. Politics, like advertising, is scamming people into buying things they really don't need. A wise Christian must be similar to a smart consumer who sees through all the hype.

According to the dictionaries that I've checked out, Evangelical is defined as this:

of or relating to a Christian sect or group that stresses the authority of the Bible, the importance of believing that Jesus Christ saved you personally from sin or hell, and the preaching of these beliefs to other people
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evangelical

The Bible talks quite a bit about the role of civil government and it's leaders. If there is a question in your mind what that role is, then I'll gladly discuss it with you in detail.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Tell us how you can be a "true evangelical" Morpheus and still vote for the pro abortion, pro anti-family values, pro socialist Democratic Party.

If you're a one-issue voter, you're doing it wrong.

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If you ignore one issue (that is immoral) but stress the importance of another (that isn't), is that "doing it right"?
 
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