Shots fired near Cal Sate University Northridge; students receiving reverse 911 calls

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NBC News: Gunman in Oregon college shooting identified by officials as 26 year old Chris Harper Mercer; not a student
 
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NBC News: Gunman in Oregon college shooting identified by officials as 26 year old Chris Harper Mercer; not a student
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What's his Muslim name?
 
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What are you going to say when it turns out he's not Muslim?
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"There are exceptions to the rule".

If it is true that he asked several of the victims before shooting them what religion they practiced, what do you believe his motive for that would have been?

I know of only one religion that preaches "death to all infidels".

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39

Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216

Etc. etc. etc.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/umpqua-community-college-shooting-chris-harper-mercer/

In one post on the blog about Vester Flanagan, the man who killed the reporter and cameraman in Virginia, Mercer apparently wrote, "I have noticed that so many people like [Flanagan] are alone and unknown, yet when they spill a little blood, the whole world knows who they are. A man who was known by no one, is now known by everyone. His face splashed across every screen, his name across the lips of every person on the planet, all in the course of one day. Seems like the more people you kill, the more you're in the limelight."
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redstate.com article

last night, as the sun set over Washington, if you asked President Obama who had been brave that day, he’d have said himself, not the students who declared themselves Christians knowing they were going to die because of it. Barack Obama, after all, had stood up to Republicans and the NRA — real bravery.

In 1,299 words, the President never condemned the killings. Before he spoke, officials confirmed that the shooter targeted his victims based on their religion. In 1,299 words, the President never called for religious tolerance.

Before we knew who the gunman was or what his motive was, the President of the United States rushed to the podium to make the case for gun control. He even admitted he was politicizing it and that the shooting should be politicized.

In his speech, the President said, “We talked about [gun control] after Columbine and Blacksburg, after Tucson, after Newtown, after Aurora, after Charleston.”

But the President did not politicize the shooting in Virginia when it was a black, gay man who killed the reporters. The President did not politicize the shooting in Chattanooga when it was a muslim radical who did the shooting. The President did not politicize the shooting of the muslim family in North Carolina when it turned out the shooter was a gay-rights supporting atheist Obama voter. No, he and the political left ran from those stories as quickly as possible. “Look over there!!!” the media demanded. “Look at this story,” they declared as soon as the shooter did not mean the demographics that allowed them to press for gun control or talk about racism.

They moved on from those stories as quickly as they moved on from the story of the gunman at the Discovery Channel offices who was killing liberals for not doing enough to stop global warming. They moved on from those stories as quickly as they moved on from the gunman at the Family Research Council who was a gay rights activist intent on killing Christians.

Before the identity of the shooter was public this time, however, the President rushed as quickly as possible to make the case for gun control. He wanted to get out the gun control story as quickly as possible, just in case the facts became inconvenient to his politics and the left had to again move on quickly.

What is so outrageous is that this time the President decided to politicize the situation after we already knew that the shooter had demanded the victims declare their religion before gunning them down. But the President never mentioned that. He never mentioned religious tolerance.

Last week, the President told Pope Francis that we should all be able to live our faith in the public square. Meanwhile his administration and allies continue to harass Christians and sue them. Now someone goes into a school, demands to know the religion of the victims, and guns them down. But instead of calling for religious tolerance – as he would have if the shooter had been a muslim – the President instead demands gun control.

But in calling for “common sense” gun control, the President cannot name any gun control laws that would have stopped the shooting. In the same way Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe demanded background checks after the Virginia shooting only to find out the shooter had had a background check, the President cannot name any gun laws, other than curtailing gun ownership, that would have stopped the shooting.

That is why, time and again, gun control arguments fall flat. But men like Barack Obama keep trying.

Perhaps instead of the President politicizing the deaths of around a dozen Americans, killed for professing their religion, he should first answer a simple question: why are there more mass shootings like this under his watch than under George W. Bush’s watch? I really don’t think the man presiding over a cultural suicide should really be the man who leads on this issue, particularly when his “common sense gun control” policy solutions would not have stopped this tragedy.
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Well the students were shot with a gun and not by anyones religion.

We are on here about every six months disagreeing about this with the same arguments every time whether the nut job who does this is muslim, racists, right wing or left wing.

The common factor for everyone of these shootings is a wide availability of guns.

However this is an inconvenient truth many won't wish to hear.
 
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This Charming Manc said:
Well the students were shot with a gun and not by anyones religion.
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I can think of two religions that hate: Secular Humanism and Islam.

We are on here about every six months disagreeing about this with the same arguments every time whether the nut job who does this is muslim, racists, right wing or left wing.

The common factor for everyone of these shootings is a wide availability of guns.

However this is an inconvenient truth many won't wish to hear.
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Barack and company couldn't have said it better.

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I can think of two religions that hate: Secular Humanism and Islam.
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You have had to backtrack from Islam to 'Secular Humanism and Islam'. You are pathetic. It's your way of avoiding admitting you were wrong. I can think of another religion that hates: it's called ACW. Your hatred will kill you in the end. It probably already has done.
 
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aCultureWarrior said:
And right on cue (never letting a good tragedy go to waste) :

More peace and love from Islam by chance?
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The shooter's on-line profiles show him saying he is a conservative Republican. You would have loved him to be a muslim, wouldn't you? Why do you hate so much?
 
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