toldailytopic: Judge not! Some say Christians shouldn't judge, what say you?

[Nathon Detroit]

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[ghost]

There is no way to answer that question without making a judgment.

I say there must be something specific that "judge not" applies to.

 

[aSeattleConserv]

Judge not! Some say Christians shouldn't judge, what say you?

If that is the case, if I ever find myself being prosecuted and having to defend myself in court, I want those Christians on my jury.

We all "judge"; we all "discriminate", whether it be in our taste of food, clothing or entertainment, or in our friends.

There is plenty of Scripture saying that we must "righteously judge". If we fail to do that (as well as fail to do our very best to hold ourselves up to God's standards) then we truly aren't following the Word of God.

 

[Lighthouse]

John 7:24

 

[Persephone66]

I think it's funny, Christians get it so wrong.

 

[Poly]

Judge rightly!

 

[aSeattleConserv]

I think it's funny, Christians get it so wrong.

Explain to us how we can "get it right" P-66.

Inquiring minds need to know.

 

[Persephone66]

Explain to us how we can "get it right" P-66.

Inquiring minds need to know.

Try asking questions before telling people what they think or what they believe or accusing them of things they don't do. That's a good start really. It's not that difficult to understand, even for you.

 

[aSeattleConserv]

Try asking questions before telling people what they think or what they believe or accusing them of things they don't do. That's a good start really. It's not that difficult to understand, even for you.

Try belieiving in God. He's the one that makes the Commandments, not me.

 

[Persephone66]

Try belieiving in God.

Believing you mean? I need proof, might as well believe in Zeus or Ra.

He's the one that makes the Commandments, not me.

So there's a commandment that tells you to make unfounded accusations? Which one?

 

[Nathon Detroit]

Some use Matthew 7 as a proof text that Christians shouldn't judge. Sadly they stop after verse 1. Matthew 7 is actually an instruction manual on how to judge rightly.

You might even call it... Judging for dummies...

 

[ghost]

I've read "Judging Dummies", but I'll check that one out too! :up:

 

[aSeattleConserv]

Believing you mean?

That He created everything, and that we are to live by His Word.

So there's a commandment that tells you to make unfounded accusations? Which one?

I'm not sure what you mean by "unfounded accusations", but as it's been shown throughout the new thread, righteous judgement is expected of Christians.

Sorry P-66, as much as you would love it, intolerant atheists don't have the patent on judging.

 

[chickenman]

We have to make judgments about the things people are doing. We need to be able to tell our brothers or sisters in Christ things like...

Lie not one to another, see that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; and have put on the new man... Col. 3:9-10

Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. I Cor. 6:8

Etc.​

But we cannot make a determination about one's salvation based upon the things they do in the flesh.

Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. 2 Cor. 5:16​

We can only judge WHO a person is (if they are in Christ or not) based on what they say they believe: do they believe (or have they ever believed) the gospel or not.

Randy

 

[Persephone66]

That He created everything, and that we are to live by His Word.

So no proof.

I'm not sure what you mean by "unfounded accusations"

Pretty simple dude, accusing someone of something they have not done and not having anything to back it up.

but as it's been shown throughout the new thread, righteous judgement is expected of Christians.

Then get it right, please?

Sorry P-66, as much as you would love it, intolerant atheists don't have the patent on judging.

Case in point. Did I say that? Did I even imply that?

 

[chrysostom]

when you tell someone that they are going to hell

that is judging
and
that is wrong

 

[Lighthouse]

when you tell someone that they are going to hell

that is judging
and
that is wrong

Prove it.

 

[aSeattleConserv]

So no proof.

And here I thought the decaying souls of atheists was proof enough.

Pretty simple dude, accusing someone of something they have not done and not having anything to back it up.

More specifics please. If you're referring to the lifestyle that you associate with, I have plenty of evidence to back up my words.

Case in point. Did I say that? Did I even imply that?

No, I'm talking about the 1,000,000 atheists that I've dealt with before you.

 

[aSeattleConserv]

when you tell someone that they are going to hell

that is judging
and
that is wrong

What if it's obvious to a Christian that another person is Hellbound? (Let's use P-66 as an example). Does that Christian not have an obligation to share the Word of God with that person?

 

[Nick M]

Chrysostom, you are going to hell with Persphone66 on the same charge. Failure to not covet.