Aimiel
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Fluff and Sacrilege
Fluff and Sacrilege
I find most of what you said could be compared to the current trend on +OL to display cartoons instead of theology-type comment. There is revelry where there should be consecration and fluff imposing itself as content. The Lord is not glorified by these things.
I will respond to the one thing which I feel is sacreligeous in your remarks...
My Bible also teaches me that I am to choose whom I serve. (Joshua 24:15) I am to keep in mind that I have the power of life and death in my tongue. (Proverbs 18:21) The Lord Himself set the precedent we have for operating in faith and 'positive confession,' as you call it. (Genesis 1:3) I believe that He could have done what you think would have been right in that situation, when the darkness covered the face of the deep: He could have confessed the circumstances, by saying, "Wow. It sure is dark." But what good does that do? None. He spoke the solution. There never was light, there was no light and He said, "Let there BE LIGHT." Light came into being because He spoke in faith, knowing that what He said would come to pass. It did not happen by chance. It did not happen because time passed and eventually, sooner or later, some molecules of nothingness bumped into one another and accidentally created light. He made the light, by faith. When Jesus told the woman with the issue of blood that her faith had made her whole, He was not joking. Her faith was the force behind the healing overtaking her body. She brought it to pass by her positive confession and stout belief in her God. (Matthew 9:19-22) When we reject the examples set before us in the Gospels, and deny the knowledge of how to put them to use and appropriate from God the things that we need, we reject Him. I don't believe that the teachings of any person or group of people ought to keep us from seeking sound medical attention.
I believe that there are many miracles that so-called 'people of faith,' miss out on because they are not using common sense. Too many people, such as my poor deluded cousin I spoke about earlier, who died of a simple stomach tumor that was overlooked and became a huge masticized mess in her belly, because she was a Christian Science 'believer' who thought that she didn't need a doctor. Well, she will have to answer to God as to why she didn't avail herself of the many health-care opportunities that God provided for her healing. Her belief was based on repetition of poetry which makes far less sense (if you can believe this) than your poem in the first half of this very round. I know, because I used to recite them. I was raised Christian Science, and found NONE of God anywhere in that religion. I sought out God, found Him, and have dedicated my life to seeking more of Him.
I also believe that many people, such as yourself, and me sometimes too, destroy the work of God in this earth when we attack the tenets of faith in others, simply because we do not understand or do not investigate whether or not they are operating on God's behalf. I know of one woman, who was my pastor for a good while, who was a very profound Prophettess, who married a catholic, who drank like a fish. She met him in a nightclub, years ago, when her girlfriends talked her into going out with them. She took one look at this 'lounge-lizard,' (her words, not mine) and saw everything she hated about this type of place. He was slick, well-dressed and half-lit. He flirted with her, and when she was about to reject him, the Holy Ghost spoke to her heart and said, "This is the man you are going to marry, and stay married to." She was flabbergasted, and told Him, "Never." He replied, "He is one of My Catholic Believers." She later married him, and was instructed to anoint his beer bottles with oil and lay hands on them and pray. Less than two weeks after she started doing this, he found that he could no longer get drunk and no longer had a taste for liquor. Today, he is a well-established pastor in his own right.
Now, I am not saying that we need to accept the WOF movement or embrace heresy of any kind; but when the dogma of modern Christianity doesn't get the job we were sent here to do (evangelizing the world) we need to look for the Truth to be revealed and for the religious spirits to be exposed. The one that says, "Those WOF'ers, they are heretics," is the very one that we are against. Not against him personally, but against the religious spirit which dominated the Dark Ages, such that the Spirit of God was nearly snuffed out in the earth. Not that this can happen, but the Holy Spirit was limited the same way that Jesus was in His own home town, He could do only some few healings and that was all. Well, the Lord is saving the best wine (wine being a symbol of the Holy Spirit's anointing) for last. I believe we are in the last days, and that we are going to see an outpouring of the Spirit of the Lord which will more thoroughly fulfill the prophesy given by Joel than the original outpouring did. I believe in miracles and I don't believe they happen by themselves. The Lord moves on those who are close to Him, they respond in faith and step out in that faith and STAND on that faith. This is the type of people that God is looking for in these last days, people who will take Him at His Word, believe His Word, stand on His Word and defend His Word against all enemies, outside AND inside the Church, the Body of Christ.
Sorry, I did not have room to respond to all of your points, but I feel that the basic tenets of faith in God and in His Christ and in the Holy Spirit were attacked, and I am His Ambassodor in this earth, and speak on His behalf. On behalf of the part of me that is human, and if you find any error in my post, I apologize, but we are not perfect, yet. When that which is perfect is come, then and only then, will prophecying cease. To God be the victory, glory, honor and power; in Heaven and in the earth. Let all things praise Him.
Fluff and Sacrilege
I find most of what you said could be compared to the current trend on +OL to display cartoons instead of theology-type comment. There is revelry where there should be consecration and fluff imposing itself as content. The Lord is not glorified by these things.
I will respond to the one thing which I feel is sacreligeous in your remarks...
OK, now we're getting real. This is the faith stuff. Does the 'Word of Faith Movement,' as you are so fond of calling this group of preachers you have chosen to single out, teach heresy in regards to health and healing. Well, do you believe that God, in the Bible, called Himself Jehovah Rophe, meaning, "I Am the God that healeth thee?" (Exodus 15:26) I do. By the way, I don't believe that God operates on coincedence, and I believe that the word Rophe is placed in the middle of the word 'prophet' for a very profound reason. It is to let us know what the office of the prophet is designed for: HEALING.The confession of healing over one’s body, claiming health by divine right, is part-and-parcel of the Movement—I know of no Word-Faith teacher who doesn’t teach this.
My Bible also teaches me that I am to choose whom I serve. (Joshua 24:15) I am to keep in mind that I have the power of life and death in my tongue. (Proverbs 18:21) The Lord Himself set the precedent we have for operating in faith and 'positive confession,' as you call it. (Genesis 1:3) I believe that He could have done what you think would have been right in that situation, when the darkness covered the face of the deep: He could have confessed the circumstances, by saying, "Wow. It sure is dark." But what good does that do? None. He spoke the solution. There never was light, there was no light and He said, "Let there BE LIGHT." Light came into being because He spoke in faith, knowing that what He said would come to pass. It did not happen by chance. It did not happen because time passed and eventually, sooner or later, some molecules of nothingness bumped into one another and accidentally created light. He made the light, by faith. When Jesus told the woman with the issue of blood that her faith had made her whole, He was not joking. Her faith was the force behind the healing overtaking her body. She brought it to pass by her positive confession and stout belief in her God. (Matthew 9:19-22) When we reject the examples set before us in the Gospels, and deny the knowledge of how to put them to use and appropriate from God the things that we need, we reject Him. I don't believe that the teachings of any person or group of people ought to keep us from seeking sound medical attention.
I believe that there are many miracles that so-called 'people of faith,' miss out on because they are not using common sense. Too many people, such as my poor deluded cousin I spoke about earlier, who died of a simple stomach tumor that was overlooked and became a huge masticized mess in her belly, because she was a Christian Science 'believer' who thought that she didn't need a doctor. Well, she will have to answer to God as to why she didn't avail herself of the many health-care opportunities that God provided for her healing. Her belief was based on repetition of poetry which makes far less sense (if you can believe this) than your poem in the first half of this very round. I know, because I used to recite them. I was raised Christian Science, and found NONE of God anywhere in that religion. I sought out God, found Him, and have dedicated my life to seeking more of Him.
I also believe that many people, such as yourself, and me sometimes too, destroy the work of God in this earth when we attack the tenets of faith in others, simply because we do not understand or do not investigate whether or not they are operating on God's behalf. I know of one woman, who was my pastor for a good while, who was a very profound Prophettess, who married a catholic, who drank like a fish. She met him in a nightclub, years ago, when her girlfriends talked her into going out with them. She took one look at this 'lounge-lizard,' (her words, not mine) and saw everything she hated about this type of place. He was slick, well-dressed and half-lit. He flirted with her, and when she was about to reject him, the Holy Ghost spoke to her heart and said, "This is the man you are going to marry, and stay married to." She was flabbergasted, and told Him, "Never." He replied, "He is one of My Catholic Believers." She later married him, and was instructed to anoint his beer bottles with oil and lay hands on them and pray. Less than two weeks after she started doing this, he found that he could no longer get drunk and no longer had a taste for liquor. Today, he is a well-established pastor in his own right.
Now, I am not saying that we need to accept the WOF movement or embrace heresy of any kind; but when the dogma of modern Christianity doesn't get the job we were sent here to do (evangelizing the world) we need to look for the Truth to be revealed and for the religious spirits to be exposed. The one that says, "Those WOF'ers, they are heretics," is the very one that we are against. Not against him personally, but against the religious spirit which dominated the Dark Ages, such that the Spirit of God was nearly snuffed out in the earth. Not that this can happen, but the Holy Spirit was limited the same way that Jesus was in His own home town, He could do only some few healings and that was all. Well, the Lord is saving the best wine (wine being a symbol of the Holy Spirit's anointing) for last. I believe we are in the last days, and that we are going to see an outpouring of the Spirit of the Lord which will more thoroughly fulfill the prophesy given by Joel than the original outpouring did. I believe in miracles and I don't believe they happen by themselves. The Lord moves on those who are close to Him, they respond in faith and step out in that faith and STAND on that faith. This is the type of people that God is looking for in these last days, people who will take Him at His Word, believe His Word, stand on His Word and defend His Word against all enemies, outside AND inside the Church, the Body of Christ.
Sorry, I did not have room to respond to all of your points, but I feel that the basic tenets of faith in God and in His Christ and in the Holy Spirit were attacked, and I am His Ambassodor in this earth, and speak on His behalf. On behalf of the part of me that is human, and if you find any error in my post, I apologize, but we are not perfect, yet. When that which is perfect is come, then and only then, will prophecying cease. To God be the victory, glory, honor and power; in Heaven and in the earth. Let all things praise Him.