Abortion is evil

7djengo7

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He's almost always a weasel when it comes to questions like this.

Oh, man....I know his sorry track record. It's pathetic.

Yet, I do take his response, "Nobody has a right to murder," as an answer in the negative to the question, "Does the woman have the absolute right to murder her child or not?" Whether he is sincere in it, I do not know. And, for aught I know, he may well have contradicted it elsewhere; for instance, as JR points out to @Arthur Brain:


By saying women should be allowed to take the "morning-after" pill, you do.

The trick is to find out whether or not Arthur Brain is willing to admit to us that the murder called "abortion" is, indeed, murder. Will he weasel away from dealing with this question? We shall see.

Arthur Brain, does a woman have a right to abort her child at any time from his/her conception onward? Yes or No?

Arthur Brain, is aborting a child in the womb murder? Yes or No?

Arthur Brain, when you say "Nobody has a right to murder," do you mean to include, as implicit therein, that "No woman has a right to abort the child conceived in her womb?" Yes or No?
 

Arthur Brain

Well-known member
Oh, man....I know his sorry track record. It's pathetic.

Yet, I do take his response, "Nobody has a right to murder," as an answer in the negative to the question, "Does the woman have the absolute right to murder her child or not?" Whether he is sincere in it, I do not know. And, for aught I know, he may well have contradicted it elsewhere; for instance, as JR points out to @Arthur Brain:



The trick is to find out whether or not Arthur Brain is willing to admit to us that the murder called "abortion" is, indeed, murder. Will he weasel away from dealing with this question? We shall see.

Arthur Brain, does a woman have a right to abort her child at any time from his/her conception onward? Yes or No?

Arthur Brain, is aborting a child in the womb murder? Yes or No?

Arthur Brain, when you say "Nobody has a right to murder," do you mean to include, as implicit therein, that "No woman has a right to abort the child conceived in her womb?" Yes or No?
Tedious word salad notwithstanding, it's not murder if a woman takes a day after drug. That's law.
 

7djengo7

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Tedious word salad notwithstanding, it's not murder if a woman takes a day after drug. That's law.

Here, you've just contradicted yourself. On the one hand, you have said, "Nobody has a right to murder," whereas, here, you are telling us that a woman has a right to murder.
 

Arthur Brain

Well-known member
Frankly, those who like to sit on pompous high horses on this issue and who deny children any rights once born wanna take a short look in a mirror and see an obvious double standard.
 

7djengo7

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Nooooooo but thanks for playing.

Sorry, Arthur Brain, but antics like that are never going to whitewash your glaring self-contradiction. Out of the one side of your mouth, you said no woman has a right to murder, whereas, out of the other side of your mouth, you said that women have the right to murder.

Frankly, those who like to sit on pompous high horses on this issue and who deny children any rights once born wanna take a short look in a mirror and see an obvious double standard.

Who are you accusing of "denying children any rights once born"? And of what rights are you accusing them of denying children once born?
 

Arthur Brain

Well-known member
Sorry, Arthur Brain, but antics like that are never going to whitewash your glaring self-contradiction. Out of the one side of your mouth, you said no woman has a right to murder, whereas, out of the other side of your mouth, you said that women have the right to murder.



Who are you accusing of "denying children any rights once born"? And of what rights are you accusing them of denying children once born?
No, I didn't but hey, you convince yourself otherwise all ya like!

Surely you're aware that there are folk here who deny children basic rights post birth?
 

Arthur Brain

Well-known member
Man's law is not always consistent with God's law. Intentionally killing a baby is always murder and that is what the "day after" drug is designed to do.
So, you're all okay with married couples using artificial, contraceptive methods to prevent a possible pregnancy from coming about but get up in arms if they use a day after drug after a condom splits?
 

Idolater

"Foundation of the World" Dispensationalist χρ
So, you're all okay with married couples using artificial, contraceptive methods to prevent a possible pregnancy from coming about but get up in arms if they use a day after drug after a condom splits?
Once there's a new critter involved it's categorically different. You're one of those critters, as am I. You get this, why are you acting like you don't get this?
 

Idolater

"Foundation of the World" Dispensationalist χρ
... Surely you're aware that there are folk here who deny children basic rights post birth?
But not rights to life, liberty, ethical independence, etc. Basically it means, get out of people's way, that's what a right is. Get out of their way, let them be, yield to them. Right to life? Don't kill them. Right to liberty? Don't kidnap or enslave them. Right to ethical independence? Don't arrest them or fine them if they don't agree with your ethics.

If a person can't get food, who do you arrest and charge with a rights violation? If he has no home, who do you imprison for violating his rights? What if he has no health insurance? Who gets visited by the police?
 
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