Occasional-ism “a non-Deistic understanding of the World”

Derf

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I believe I answered this here: "there is obv ... some sort of mapping to His old body in His new body"
Enough that He didn't have to manufacture scars on a new body, for tge reason below.
It was analogical, you're taking it too literally. I meant that it appears plausible that He had the ability to alter his appearance to others.
If so, then the scars He showed them were fake, or of something that were not intrinsically evidential to His resurrection. I don't think I'm taking that part too literally.
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Idolater

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Enough that He didn't have to manufacture scars on a new body, for tge reason below.

If so, then the scars He showed them were fake

Nope. Nobody said the scars were faked or manufactured, nothing like that was suggested or implied or alluded to or said. I said "there is obv ... some sort of mapping to His old body in His new body".

What has been said is all in accord with that, our new bodies, will be able to change our appearance to other people, on demand, but we have no evidence that our Lord could turn Himself into an apparent woman, He was always hiding as a man, not a woman. We also don't have any reason to think His hair color or whether He had a beard or not, e.g., would have changed. All that's being proposed is that to a stranger, for example, somebody walking around with a mug shot, somebody who's looking for you, that you'd have the ability to evade detection in that kind of situation and easily. Scars don't enter into it if you can disguise your hands and feet under longer cloth. Or, perhaps you can vanish your scars on demand, but your "resting" state body, your default, is going to have those scars. idk, but all I'm saying is it's not that much of a stretch, everything I'm saying is consistent with Scripture. I'm not saying I'm right, but it would explain why people who should have recognized Him, didn't. He didn't WANT to be recognized. And we're going to have that same ability, when we have our new bodies.

, or of something that were not intrinsically evidential to His resurrection. I don't think I'm taking that part too literally.

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Nothing like that was suggested or implied or alluded to or said.
 

Derf

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Nope. Nobody said the scars were faked or manufactured, nothing like that was suggested or implied or alluded to or said. I said "there is obv ... some sort of mapping to His old body in His new body".

What has been said is all in accord with that, our new bodies, will be able to change our appearance to other people, on demand, but we have no evidence that our Lord could turn Himself into an apparent woman, He was always hiding as a man, not a woman. We also don't have any reason to think His hair color or whether He had a beard or not, e.g., would have changed. All that's being proposed is that to a stranger, for example, somebody walking around with a mug shot, somebody who's looking for you, that you'd have the ability to evade detection in that kind of situation and easily. Scars don't enter into it if you can disguise your hands and feet under longer cloth. Or, perhaps you can vanish your scars on demand, but your "resting" state body, your default, is going to have those scars. idk, but all I'm saying is it's not that much of a stretch, everything I'm saying is consistent with Scripture. I'm not saying I'm right, but it would explain why people who should have recognized Him, didn't. He didn't WANT to be recognized. And we're going to have that same ability, when we have our new bodies.



Nothing like that was suggested or implied or alluded to or said.
To what purpose in our resurrection, or His, for that matter? Wouldn't it be easier to say that He blinded their eyes so that they didn't recognize Him rather than that He changed His appearance? Both might be in His power, but one is deceitful to those who love Him.
 

Idolater

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To what purpose in our resurrection, or His, for that matter? Wouldn't it be easier to say that He blinded their eyes so that they didn't recognize Him rather than that He changed His appearance? Both might be in His power, but one is deceitful to those who love Him.

How aren't they both equally deceitful.
 
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