Was 9/11 an Inside Job? - Sep 11, 2026

Was 9/11 an Inside Job?

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Yes.

The planes flew inside the buildings.

ok doser said:

Yes.

The planes flew inside the buildings.

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Agreed.

Seriously though, if you hold that our own government either did this or was a party to this, you're letting off the hook the real criminal, which is Islamism.

'Islamism' is the modern word for ancient, expansionist and imperialist (and butchers) Islam. There is a variety of Islam in modernity which is Westernized and docile to Western values, that is what "Islam" tends to mean in the West, (that's what President Geo. W. Bush meant when he said then that, "Islam is a religion of peace," he was talking about our Western Muslim neighbors, who are peaceful and law-abiding, they are good Western people) because that's what most especially older Westerners have ever seen of Islam irl. But in Arab and other countries dominated by Islam what's going on over there is more correctly termed 'Islamism,' which is a combination of a religion and a political ideology, which is directly opposed to many distinctively Christian values. Islamism is anti-Western (like pre-Christian societies were, like Nazism was, for examples).

tldr (an interpretive exercise); yesterday's Wikipedia article about American Airlines Flight 11 has the phrase "body fragments"¹ in the fifth paragraph, and the reason the phrase "body fragments" is in that article, and the reason that article even exists, is because of Islamists, and not because "9/11 was an Inside Job."​

¹ “ While the recovery effort at the World Trade Center site led to the discovery and identification of body fragments from certain individuals who boarded Flight 11, many have not been identified. ”
« https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_11 accessed September 11, 2026 »

ok doser said:

Yes.

The planes flew inside the buildings.

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They flew (not flee) into the buildings, not inside the buildings.

Derf said:

They [flew] into the buildings, not inside the buildings.

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You got him there!

Derf said:

They flew (not flee) into the buildings, not inside the buildings.

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How about they crashed inside the buildings as they were flying through?

Idolater said:

Agreed.

Seriously though, if you hold that our own government either did this or was a party to this, you're letting off the hook the real criminal, which is Islamism.

'Islamism' is the modern word for ancient, expansionist and imperialist (and butchers) Islam. There is a variety of Islam in modernity which is Westernized and docile to Western values, that is what "Islam" tends to mean in the West, (that's what President Geo. W. Bush meant when he said then that, "Islam is a religion of peace," he was talking about our Western Muslim neighbors, who are peaceful and law-abiding, they are good Western people) because that's what most especially older Westerners have ever seen of Islam irl. But in Arab and other countries dominated by Islam what's going on over there is more correctly termed 'Islamism,' which is a combination of a religion and a political ideology, which is directly opposed to many distinctively Christian values. Islamism is anti-Western (like pre-Christian societies were, like Nazism was, for examples).

tldr (an interpretive exercise); yesterday's Wikipedia article about American Airlines Flight 11 has the phrase "body fragments"¹ in the fifth paragraph, and the reason the phrase "body fragments" is in that article, and the reason that article even exists, is because of Islamists, and not because "9/11 was an Inside Job."​

¹ “ While the recovery effort at the World Trade Center site led to the discovery and identification of body fragments from certain individuals who boarded Flight 11, many have not been identified. ”
« https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_11 accessed September 11, 2026 »

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I am merely sharing the show. I may or may not agree with the content of the show. My view is that the Islamists are responsible for this. There may have been some of these terror cells working from the inside too.

ok doser said:

How about they crashed inside the buildings as they were flying through?

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Except they crashed when they first hit the outside of the buildings. So the crashing started before they entered. After that it was all crash and momentum.

My primary position is that it was the muslims who planned and carried out the attack.

That said, I also cannot rule out definitively that our government, in some capacity, and/or at some level, instigated it in some way, simply due to lack of evidence.

Especially given how much they seem to hate our country.

Sherman said:

I am merely sharing the show. I may or may not agree with the content of the show. My view is that the Islamists are responsible for this. There may have been some of these terror cells working from the inside too.

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That's true. People forget the same group who did September 11 in the US did October 7 in Israel. Houthi, Hamas, Al Qaeda, ISIS, the Taliban, they're all cut outta the same cloth, just different patches, it's all Islamism; they're Islamists. They want to spread their form of government which is Islamism. We in the West conceptually strip out the religious part and call it a religion, we call the abstracted part from Islamism 'Islam' but it was never separate from its very start. Islamism has always been a package. The conquest and belligerence plus the religious stuff. There are Western Islamists but those law abiding, peaceful, and Western people have extracted the religious stuff from Islamism and practice it while obeying fundamentally basically Christian laws, as opposed to Islamist Sharia laws. It's similar for Jews today who extracted the religious stuff from their ancient ideology, which was also more militaristic, and caused the many revolts against the Romans leading up to the final revolt in ca. AD 132 or 136, after which Rome just took all the farms, leaving no food in the region, so everybody left. That's how bad they used to be. But the peaceful religious stuff was extracted from that militaristic ideology and that's what observant Orthodox Jews practice today, and Western Muslims similarly practice a peaceful religious part of Islamism in the West. The Church never had to do that because we were never fundamentally militaristic. We conquered through conversions and persuasion, not primarily through the sword, although we have swords, and we know how to use them.

People forget that with any religion, there are different shades, from mild to extreme. They tend to paint Muslims with the same brush because it's the Islamists that get all the press.

Sherman said:

People forget that with any religion, there are different shades, from mild to extreme. They tend to paint Muslims with the same brush because it's the Islamists that get all the press.

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In discussions of this nature I like asking people if they know which country has the largest population of Muslims. They usually don't know and they guess countries in the Middle East or in Africa.
It's Indonesia.
And the reason people don't know that is because the flavor of Islam that they have in Indonesia is generally benign.
And bad news will always get more press than good news.

I used to live right around the corner from where 3 of the high jackers lived together. After the attacks, Germany caught one of the guys who helped them plan the whole thing and only gave him 10 years in prison or something gay like that.

Western governments these days are stupid enough to make everything look like an inside job.

I am fairly certain there Chechen soldiers who fight for Russia and mercenaries from Wagner Group actually living here right now in Germany. If they get injured fighting, all the Russian government has to do is give them a fake Ukrainian passport and say "Enjoy your vacation in Germany, they will pay for your medical costs and living expenses for the next year or 2"