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    What was the appearance of the three [LORD,lords] who visited Abraham.

    What does the scripture say?
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    Are you born again (John 3)? Take this test.

    How so?
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    What was the appearance of the three [LORD,lords] who visited Abraham.

    So list them. Scripture says God is the invisible God. Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 1Ti 1:17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen. Heb 11:27 By faith he forsook...
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    What was the appearance of the three [LORD,lords] who visited Abraham.

    Yes, Jesus Christ is the image of the invisible God. I believe you can think with far more clarity. The photo on your driver's license is the image of Nick M. Does the image or the driver's license drive the car? or does Nick M drive the car? Matthew 22:19-21 19 Shew me the tribute money...
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    Are you born again (John 3)? Take this test.

    Why don't you read what Jesus said in John 3? I will make it easy for you. John 3: 2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. 3 Jesus answered and said...
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    Are you born again (John 3)? Take this test.

    Yes, bringing scripture into a scriptural topic is weird for you. Who ever heard of such a thing? Evidently, you have not
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    Are you born again (John 3)? Take this test.

    Thank you! Jesus Christ was so weird, the traditionalists plotted his murder. Jesus was so weird according to the mainstream religion, they had him tortured and crucified. I am in good company
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    Are you born again (John 3)? Take this test.

    No sir! It is not your audience's responsibility to not be confused by your sloppy use of language but rather your responsibility to communicate your message in a manner than can be received by your audience. You can use whatever terminology you desire but if people are confused by your...
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    Are you born again (John 3)? Take this test.

    Well, using the term "work" is going to cause confusion in Christian circles but suffice it to say that you have to have the concepts correct, not just the words. It is precisely this issue that will find a lot of Calvinists and Catholics in big trouble on judgement day. Death is a separation...
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    Are you born again (John 3)? Take this test.

    I agree that it takes work, mental work to reach the point that we satisfy those two conditions. Obviously, we must be able to understand the concepts of death and life. That death and life are extreme opposites. The concept of God raising someone from the dead, specifically Jesus Christ...
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    Are you born again (John 3)? Take this test.

    I suppose I so to some degree. Well, until I learned to pay attention, I had the same challenges. We have to rely on the Word of God to figure out what we are supposed to believe, not people's denominations or opinions. God is reliable and knows what He is talking about.
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    What was the appearance of the three [LORD,lords] who visited Abraham.

    The image of God is spirit. John 4:24 "God is a spirit" or more accurately, God is spirit. As spirit, He is not perceived by the five senses. Some of His works can be perceived by the five senses. Ie, the heavens and the earth, etc. God is invisible to the physical eyes. No man has seen...
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    On the omniscience of God

    Thank you for pointing that out. I agree with your assessment. Add to that the meaning of the Greek word for predestinate, proorizo, which means, to mark out beforehand, to appoint beforehand and we see that God preappointed those, as you clearly and rightfully point out, who God foreknew...
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    What was the appearance of the three [LORD,lords] who visited Abraham.

    Isaiah 43:11 is the truth. I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour. I is referring to God, not to His son or the many other saviors that the Bible refers to. God is the ultimate and only source of salvation. However, since salvation is one of the businesses of God, and...
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    What was the appearance of the three [LORD,lords] who visited Abraham.

    Well, sorry to disappoint you. God refers to himself in many ways, Lord, Rock Shepherd. High tower, fortress, but not once, not once, does he refer to himself as a trinity. Why don't you stick with scripture, instead of fantasizing? Jesus said what? Did he say, "I and my Father are God?"...
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    On the omniscience of God

    Foreknowledge does not predetermine future events. They are known but not predetermined. I have foreknowledge of the return of Christ for his saints. Are you suggesting that I am the cause and authority concerning the return of Christ?
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    Water baptism is not for the body of Christ

    That is right, Mark 16:16 does not say what the medium of the baptism would be. So guessing is not the process to choose. Since both John the B and Jesus Christ foretold that baptism in the holy spirit would be brought in by Jesus Christ, why would you want to argue with them? Don't...
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    Water baptism is not for the body of Christ

    That verse says nothing about baptism in water. Why do you add to the scripture, instead of simply accepting what God says? What led you to believe you can correct God?
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    On the omniscience of God

    Foreknowledge does not indicate that events were already determined, it only shows that the future events are known. If they were already determined than foreknowledge would be unnecessary because all things in the future would be planned ahead of time. God does not force people to believe or...
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    What was the appearance of the three [LORD,lords] who visited Abraham.

    Being referred to as lord does not make that lord, the Lord God or any other lord in particular. God sends angels to men to inform, warn, etc. These angels are considered superior to men because they have abilities that men do not have.. We read that Sarah called Abraham, lord. That does...
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