10th video released "colleagues who generate a fair amount of income doing this"

jeffblue101

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10th video released "colleagues who generate a fair amount of income doing this"


official press release:
LOS ANGELES, Sept. 15–The fourth episode in a new documentary web series and 10th video by The Center for Medical Progress features several top-level Planned Parenthood executives discussing the organization’s secretive practices around aborted fetal parts harvesting. The video includes comments from Deborah VanDerhei, the National Director of the organization’s Consortium of Abortion Providers, describing the harvesting of fetal body parts as “donation for remuneration.”

The “Human Capital” documentary web series, produced by The Center for Medical Progress, integrates expert interviews, eyewitness accounts, and real-life undercover interactions to explore different themes within Planned Parenthood’s sale of aborted fetal tissue. Episode 4, “Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s Criminal Enterprise,” launches today at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9EU_02c5bM

The video highlights conversations with Dr. Carolyn Westhoff, Senior Medical Advisor for PPFA; Dr. Vanessa Cullins, Vice President for External Medical Affairs for PPFA; and Deborah VanDerhei, National Director for the Consortium of Abortion Providers (CAPS) at PPFA.

“We’ve just been working with people who want particular tissues, like, you know, they want cardiac, or they want eyes, or they want neural,” says Dr. Westhoff to a prospective fetal organ buyer. “Certainly, everything we provide–oh, gonads! Oh my God, gonads. Everything we provide is fresh.” Westhoff continues, “Obviously, we would have the potential for a huge P.R. issue in doing this,” before offering to introduce the buyers to “national office abortion people” from Planned Parenthood.

Deborah VanDerhei is the National Director for CAPS, an influential committee within Planned Parenthood that drives abortion policy across the organization. VanDerhei refers to payments for fetal tissue as “donation for remuneration,” which carries the connotation of financial reward or benefit without regard for actual expenses. VanDerhei explains, “I have been talking to the executive director of the National Abortion Federation, we’re trying to figure this out as an industry, about how we’re going to manage remuneration, because the headlines would be a disaster.

“Is this really worth getting–I don’t even know what in general, what a specimen generally brings in?” VanDerhei later asks a prospective buyer. When she is told $100 per specimen, she remarks, “But we have independent colleagues who generate a fair amount of income doing this.” VanDerhei suggests that Planned Parenthood goes to great lengths to avoid leaving a paper trail about their fetal tissue activity: “It’s an issue that you might imagine we’re not really that comfortable talking about on email.”

In a conversation recorded between VanDerhei and Vanessa Russo, Compliance Program Administrator for Planned Parenthood Keystone in Pennsylvania, Russo argues, “A company like this that wants to give our organization money for the tissue–I think that that’s a valid exchange, and that that’s okay.” VanDerhei nods her head up and down and affirms, “Mhm.”

The sale or purchase of human fetal tissue is a federal felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison or a fine of up to $500,000 (42 U.S.C. 289g-2).

Vanessa Cullins, the Vice President of External Medical Affairs, seems fully aware of the criminal exposure that fetal body parts sales present to Planned Parenthood: “This is important. This could destroy your organization and us, if we don’t time those conversations correctly,” she tells a prospective buyer.

Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in the country, responsible for 327,000 abortions every year, and receives $528 million in taxpayer money each year. “From email black-outs to contorted oxymorons like ‘donation for remuneration,’ the lengths to which Planned Parenthood leadership will go to cover-up their illegal sale of aborted baby parts are nothing less than the desperation of a guilty conscience,” notes David Daleiden, Project Lead for CMP. “Planned Parenthood CEO Cecile Richards openly admits they receive ‘$60 per tissue specimen,’ and their contracts with StemExpress offer payments per fetus ‘determined in the clinic to be usable.’ Planned Parenthood runs their abortion and baby parts business in open disregard for the law and should be prosecuted immediately. Their taxpayer funding should be reassigned to Federally Qualified Health Centers, which provide more and comprehensive health services at locations outnumbering Planned Parenthood 20 to 1.”

Also in the video these evil baby killers admit they don't allow email communications on the topic just to avoid any investigation. If what you are doing is ethical why hide it, why go extreme lengths as to avoid all email communications? The only logical reason they go to extreme lengths is that PP profits off baby body parts.
 

jeffblue101

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PP official thinks laws preventing the profiteering off baby body parts are "ridiculous" and "crap"
Vanessa Russo, Compliance Program Administrator, Planned Parenthood
Keystone (“PP”)

-Deborah VanDerhei, National Director, Consortium of Abortion Providers
(CAPS), Planned Parenthood Federation of America (“PPCAPS”)

-Two actors posing as Fetal Tissue Procurement Company (“Buyer”)

Buyer: Right, as far as that goes I feel like failure is not an option. I mean, unless somebody is gonna do some market testing and focus grouping, but otherwise, I don’t think, I just don’t think it’s something you talk about in public, and I mean, it just can’t be.

PPCAPS: Well yeah, but I mean, you know, if you’re doing it, there’s
opportunities for people to find out about it.

PP: I sort of, my stance on that is like, I feel like we’re sometimes bullied by ridiculous laws and this media that doesn’t understand the big picture. And I don’t really think that we should participate in that level of discussion. And that we should operate as an organization, the way any other organization would. And I don’t feel, and I’m a researcher at heart, and I love the idea of being able to do this and participate in research. I would love to see this happen in some way. I’m probably maybe not so sensitive to like ridiculous, like, let’s have a debate on the real issue and truths, that’s a discussion I would participate in. I don’t feel like we should readily participate in discussions based on crap. I mean, that’s my thought process on that. I may be alone, but that’s how I feel about that [laughter].

PPCAPS: Are you suggesting that our conversation was too conservative?

PP: I feel like sometimes, like, this is my first time here, I’ve only been with the organization a year and a half, so I don’t know the history like somebody who’s been there for a long, long time. But I’ve always been a supporter, I’ve been a patient, now I’m working here, and I just feel like we shouldn’t participate in ridiculous discussions. We should participate in a valid [way?]. And that we should not curtail our business [motions to Buyer table] for ridiculousness. Maybe curtail our business for an actual real discussion.

PPCAPS: I don’t anybody was suggesting that you curtail. The message to me, that I heard today, was, “Go for it.” We think it’s a great idea. Just do it right.

PP: Exactly, and I understand that. But like, a company like this that wants to pay us, that wants to give our organization money for the tissue [Deb VanDerhei nodding yes], I think that that’s a valid exchange. And that’s okay. [Deb nods emphatically]
 

Buzzword

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And the smearing continues.
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jeffblue101

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And the smearing continues.
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Then PP should sue, I wonder why it hasn't or any other organisation called out by CMP haven't tried suing for defamation or even better why hasn't PP shown the contracts they signed with a detailed breakdown of what their costs are that needed to get reimbursed for?
 

shagster01

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official press release:


Also in the video these evil baby killers admit they don't allow email communications on the topic just to avoid any investigation. If what you are doing is ethical why hide it, why go extreme lengths as to avoid all email communications? The only logical reason they go to extreme lengths is that PP profits off baby body parts.

If a person is murdered after birth (say he's robbed and shot) should his organs and things not be sold as implants and transplants either? Companies do make a huge profit off of that.

How is this not the same?
 

jeffblue101

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If a person is murdered after birth (say he's robbed and shot) should his organs and things not be sold as implants and transplants either? Companies do make a huge profit off of that.

How is this not the same?

I have no idea what your talking about, It is illegal and unethical to sell "birthed" human organs murdered or not. Why should the unborn be the exceptions?
 

musterion

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Where's the leftist, can't remember which, who said a month ago that making $ had nothing to do with any of this. Wonder if he'll fess up.
 

jeffblue101

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Stryker, Organogenis, Osis, Osprey, Davol, to name a few.

Were you under the impression that transplants just happen pro bono?

:confused: I think your conflating multiple issues. Yes, no doubt that that their are companies whose research off of donated parts will turn a profit, such profits are not addressed by current law and are largely deemed ethical when used for medical research. Also, none of the companies that you listed deal with transplant surgery. Instead what is being addressed by the PP tapes is that harvesting birthed and unborn body parts for a profit is illegal. The only costs that can be legally covered are for transportation and processing which PP does neither since a middleman Stemxpress handles all of that.
 
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