Abortion - Proof the left and democrats are completely insane

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Society has degenerated to deep lows as seen in the widespread support from leftists for murdering babies up to and shortly after birth. What is wrong with these morons? Are they reincarnations of Hitler Death Camp Murderers? Why do they take such pleasure in murdering infants? Why do sane adults keep electing these murderous psychopaths to represent them in politics?

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Fact-check: Do Democrats support abortion up until (and after) birth?

In the latest push from Republicans to advance a federal ban on abortion after 20 weeks and a requirement for doctors to treat infants born after an attempted abortion , U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas,…
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In the latest push from Republicans to advance a federal ban on abortion after 20 weeks and a requirement for doctors to treat infants born after an attempted abortion, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, spoke in favor of the efforts from the Senate floor.

In his remarks, Cruz urged his Democratic colleagues to support these kinds of “common sense propositions,” a departure from the party’s “extreme” position on abortion.

Neither bill — versions of which GOP lawmakers have attempted to pass several times over multiple years — was approved.

“We’ve seen far too many Democrats embrace extreme positions on abortion: abortion up until the moment of birth and even, horrifically, after that,” Cruz said, before highlighting a radio interview Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam gave in 2019 about a bill in the Virginia House of Delegates regulating third-trimester abortions
 
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Society has degenerated to deep lows as seen in the widespread support from leftists for murdering babies up to and shortly after birth. What is wrong with these morons? Are they reincarnations of Hitler Death Camp Murderers? Why do they take such pleasure in murdering infants? Why do sane adults keep electing these murderous psychopaths to represent them in politics?
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  • Colorado's Republican Governor John Love signed the nation's first permissive abortion law in 1967.
  • Republican U.S. Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackmun wrote Roe v. Wade.
  • The 7-to-2 Roe v. Wade ruling was approved with five a Republican majority of five votes.
  • The Republican Justices now on the Court (including Scalia, Thomas, Alito and Roberts) oppose personhood.
  • All six Republican judges on the 11th circuit (nominated by Reagan, Bush Sr. & George W. Bush) voted to kill Terri Schiavo.
  • Republican "pro-life" heroine Priscilla Owen voted to abort "Baby 10" as a Texas Supreme Court judge.
  • Republican "pro-life" hero Samuel Alito sided with Planned Parenthood in repeated 3rd-circuit rulings, including ruling to keep partial birth abortion legal.
  • Republican George W. Bush refused to support South Dakota's total ban on abortion.
  • Hundreds of pro-life laws that regulate abortion that will actually keep abortion legal after Roe is overturned such as the Informed Consent laws.
-- https://theologyonline.com/threads/trump-every-baby-precious-so-ban-late-term-abortion.53573/

An illustrious list of Republican men are publicly anti-choice, but privately have supported women in their lives having abortions

Republicans abhor abortions – unless it’s for their mistress, of course
Meet Scott Lloyd, the head of the Office of Refugee Resettlement; in theory he’s responsible for supporting refugees build a better life in America by providing them with financial and medical assistance. Under previous administrations, this included abortion services. But we live in a God-fearing America now, and Lloyd has made it his mission to ensure refugee women, including unaccompanied minors, don’t get abortions. He even blocked a 17-year-old-girl who had been raped from having an abortion. “The child – the one who is destroyed – is not an aggressor,” he argued in a report. No Scott, the child isn’t an aggressor; you are.
As Mother Jones reported this week, despite his patronizing proselytizing, Lloyd doesn’t always practice what he preaches. As a young man he drove an ex-girlfriend to get an abortion and paid for half of it.
Lloyd joins an illustrious list of Republicans whose stance on abortion is basically: “It’s OK for me; evil for thee.” Earlier this year, for example, it emerged that Elliot Broidy, the former RNC deputy finance chairman paid $1.6m to a Playboy Playmate he had an affair with, after she aborted his child.
Then there is Tim Murphy, the pro-life Pennsylvania Republican who resigned last year after it was revealed he had urged his mistress to consider an abortion. And let’s not forget the charming Scott DesJarlais. According to testimony during his divorce trial, the Tennessee congressman supported his ex-wife's decision to get two abortions before their marriage. The former doctor also allegedly pressured a 24-year-old patient he was having an affair with to get an abortion. Even after all that information came out DesJarlais still had the gall to vote for anti-abortion bills and boast of having a “100% pro-life voting record."

Abortion will never be outlawed. These are statements made by the conservative Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts, regarding the abortion issue: "Roe v. Wade is the settled law of the land." "It’s settled as a precedent of the court, entitled to respect under principles of stare decisis." "There’s nothing in my personal views that would prevent me from fully and faithfully applying that precedent." So much for the right wing evangelical pipe dream that Republican politicians will get Roe v. Wade overturned by stacking the courts with more conservative judges, because even the conservative judges are telling you that it isn't going to happen.

The word "murder" has a particular meaning--"the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another." "Unlawful" is a key word there. Abortion is legal in the eyes of the law, therefore it is not murder. It may be wrong, immoral, sinful, etc., but it isn't murder. So those who claim that abortion is murder have no legal standing upon which to make such a claim.

If a woman discovers that she is pregnant and decides to carry that pregnancy to term, that is her choice to make. If a woman discovers that she is pregnant and decides not to carry that pregnancy to term, that is also her choice. No one else can make the choice for her, and both choices are equally valid in the eyes of the law.

Most anti-choice people don't really care about abortion except insofar as they can use it as a political football with which they hope to score points for their team on election day. They couldn't care less about the women involved. I have no respect for these people.

Others are genuinely concerned about women in "crisis pregnancy" situations and so on. They do whatever they can to help. They "walk the talk." These people are worthy of respect, even though I disagree with them on the issue of choice.
 
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  • Colorado's Republican Governor John Love signed the nation's first permissive abortion law in 1967.
  • Republican U.S. Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackmun wrote Roe v. Wade.
  • The 7-to-2 Roe v. Wade ruling was approved with five a Republican majority of five votes.
  • The Republican Justices now on the Court (including Scalia, Thomas, Alito and Roberts) oppose personhood.
  • All six Republican judges on the 11th circuit (nominated by Reagan, Bush Sr. & George W. Bush) voted to kill Terri Schiavo.
  • Republican "pro-life" heroine Priscilla Owen voted to abort "Baby 10" as a Texas Supreme Court judge.
  • Republican "pro-life" hero Samuel Alito sided with Planned Parenthood in repeated 3rd-circuit rulings, including ruling to keep partial birth abortion legal.
  • Republican George W. Bush refused to support South Dakota's total ban on abortion.
  • Hundreds of pro-life laws that regulate abortion that will actually keep abortion legal after Roe is overturned such as the Informed Consent laws.
-- https://theologyonline.com/threads/trump-every-baby-precious-so-ban-late-term-abortion.53573/

An illustrious list of Republican men are publicly anti-choice, but privately have supported women in their lives having abortions

Republicans abhor abortions – unless it’s for their mistress, of course
Meet Scott Lloyd, the head of the Office of Refugee Resettlement; in theory he’s responsible for supporting refugees build a better life in America by providing them with financial and medical assistance. Under previous administrations, this included abortion services. But we live in a God-fearing America now, and Lloyd has made it his mission to ensure refugee women, including unaccompanied minors, don’t get abortions. He even blocked a 17-year-old-girl who had been raped from having an abortion. “The child – the one who is destroyed – is not an aggressor,” he argued in a report. No Scott, the child isn’t an aggressor; you are.
As Mother Jones reported this week, despite his patronizing proselytizing, Lloyd doesn’t always practice what he preaches. As a young man he drove an ex-girlfriend to get an abortion and paid for half of it.
Lloyd joins an illustrious list of Republicans whose stance on abortion is basically: “It’s OK for me; evil for thee.” Earlier this year, for example, it emerged that Elliot Broidy, the former RNC deputy finance chairman paid $1.6m to a Playboy Playmate he had an affair with, after she aborted his child.
Then there is Tim Murphy, the pro-life Pennsylvania Republican who resigned last year after it was revealed he had urged his mistress to consider an abortion. And let’s not forget the charming Scott DesJarlais. According to testimony during his divorce trial, the Tennessee congressman supported his ex-wife's decision to get two abortions before their marriage. The former doctor also allegedly pressured a 24-year-old patient he was having an affair with to get an abortion. Even after all that information came out DesJarlais still had the gall to vote for anti-abortion bills and boast of having a “100% pro-life voting record."

Abortion will never be outlawed. These are statements made by the conservative Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts, regarding the abortion issue: "Roe v. Wade is the settled law of the land." "It’s settled as a precedent of the court, entitled to respect under principles of stare decisis." "There’s nothing in my personal views that would prevent me from fully and faithfully applying that precedent." So much for the right wing evangelical pipe dream that Republican politicians will get Roe v. Wade overturned by stacking the courts with more conservative judges, because even the conservative judges are telling you that it isn't going to happen.

The word "murder" has a particular meaning--"the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another." "Unlawful" is a key word there. Abortion is legal in the eyes of the law, therefore it is not murder. It may be wrong, immoral, sinful, etc., but it isn't murder. So those who claim that abortion is murder have no legal standing upon which to make such a claim.

If a woman discovers that she is pregnant and decides to carry that pregnancy to term, that is her choice to make. If a woman discovers that she is pregnant and decides not to carry that pregnancy to term, that is also her choice. No one else can make the choice for her, and both choices are equally valid in the eyes of the law.

Most anti-choice people don't really care about abortion except insofar as they can use it as a political football with which they hope to score points for their team on election day. They couldn't care less about the women involved. I have no respect for these people.

Others are genuinely concerned about women in "crisis pregnancy" situations and so on. They do whatever they can to help. They "walk the talk." These people are worthy of respect, even though I disagree with them on the issue of choice.
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Don't let leftist receivers fool you. Democrats own the abortion issue. Just because some republicans favor abortion does not mean democrats oppose abortion. Democrats give hundreds of millions tax dollars a year to Planned Parenthood and Planned Parenthood gives hundreds of millions of dollars a year to democrat candidates in return.

Thousands of Christians forcefully oppose abortion. Practically no democrats forcefully oppose abortion
 
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Don't let leftist receivers fool you. Democrats own the abortion issue.
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* Abortion Nationally is from the Republican Supreme Court:
- Republican U.S. Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackmun wrote Roe v. Wade.
- The 1973 Roe 7-to-2 opinion was approved with a Republican majority of five votes.
- The 1992 landmark Casey opinion upheld "abortion rights" though 8 Republicans and a single pro-life Democrat (who dissented) comprised the court.
- In 2002 Casey author and Republican Justice Antonin Scalia said, "I will also strike down a law that is the opposite of Roe v. Wade."
- In 2008 on ABC's 60 Minutes Scalia said, "there are anti-abortion people who think that... the [constitution's] equal protection clause requires that you treat a helpless human being that's still in the womb the way you treat other human beings. I think that's wrong."
- In 2012 Republican Chief Justice John Roberts voted to uphold the socialist, pro-abortion Obamacare.
- In 2017 Republican Gorsuch became the poster-child for the "pro-life" movement's support for judges who reject the child's God-given right to life (see video below)
- From 1973 to 2020 every Republican justice on the court has agreed with the Democrat Party's platform and the central holding of Roe that the baby is not a person and has no right to life.

Republican Judicial Crisis | KGOV.com

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* Abortion Nationally is from the Republican Supreme Court:
- Republican U.S. Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackmun wrote Roe v. Wade.
- The 1973 Roe 7-to-2 opinion was approved with a Republican majority of five votes.
- The 1992 landmark Casey opinion upheld "abortion rights" though 8 Republicans and a single pro-life Democrat (who dissented) comprised the court.
- In 2002 Casey author and Republican Justice Antonin Scalia said, "I will also strike down a law that is the opposite of Roe v. Wade."
- In 2008 on ABC's 60 Minutes Scalia said, "there are anti-abortion people who think that... the [constitution's] equal protection clause requires that you treat a helpless human being that's still in the womb the way you treat other human beings. I think that's wrong."
- In 2012 Republican Chief Justice John Roberts voted to uphold the socialist, pro-abortion Obamacare.
- In 2017 Republican Gorsuch became the poster-child for the "pro-life" movement's support for judges who reject the child's God-given right to life (see video below)
- From 1973 to 2020 every Republican justice on the court has agreed with the Democrat Party's platform and the central holding of Roe that the baby is not a person and has no right to life.

Republican Judicial Crisis | KGOV.com

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Not many republicans run campaigns advocating abortion. Nearly all democrat politicians either campaign for abortion or refuse to stand against abortion. If you are trying to prove otherwise you are simply trying to prove the lie is the truth.
 
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marke said:
Not many republicans run campaigns advocating abortion. Nearly all democrat politicians either campaign for abortion or refuse to stand against abortion. If you are trying to prove otherwise you are simply trying to prove the lie is the truth.
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The Democrats are honest and will tell you that they are pro-choice. The Republicans are liars and will tell you that they are anti-choice when many of them really aren't. At the end of the day, you lose either way.
 
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The Democrats are honest and will tell you that they are pro-choice. The Republicans are liars and will tell you that they are anti-choice when many of them really aren't. At the end of the day, you lose either way.
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I admit there are murderers on both sides. Just the same, I side with God, not republicans or democrats, on the abortion issue.
 
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So, killing babies proves how moral Democrats are. Seems to me that's really bizarre way to prove someone is moral. :rolleyes:
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It all has to do with delusional thinking and constructed realities. If you can live in a constructed reality in which the unborn child is nothing but a clump of cells, a glob of goo, a inconvenience with no moral agency until it magically becomes human and invested with humanity and rights at birth ....
If you can operate in that bizarre delusional reality, then so many other things make sense. It all flows from that original delusion.
 
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ok doser said:
It all has to do with delusional thinking and constructed realities. If you can live in a constructed reality in which the unborn child is nothing but a clump of cells, a glob of goo, a inconvenience with no moral agency until it magically becomes human and invested with humanity and rights at birth ....
If you can operate in that bizarre delusional reality, then so many other things make sense. It all flows from that original delusion.
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I agree almost 100%. Most people who think that way believe rights come from government, not God, so only when the child is registered with the government do they have any rights.
 
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