Fun Facts: Moses vs Mohammed

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http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/...-a-word-an-arabic-racial-slur-against-blacks/ Muslim slave trade in Africa has lasted 14 centuries and continues to this day in places like Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, and Sudan. Over 17 million slaves (mostly black women and children) were transported out of Africa by Islamic traders. Another 85 million are believed to have died en route. The Prophet Muhammad practiced and approved of slavery, and directed his men to do the same. The Qur’an devotes more verses to informing Muslim men of their right to keep women as sex slaves, than it does to telling them to pray five times a day. The Arabic word for “black” (Abid) is synonymous with the word for “slave”. Muhammad’s father-in-law, Umar declared that Arabs could not be taken as slaves, and freed all Arab slaves. This led to the wide Islamic campaign to capture slaves in Africa, Europe and Asia. Western slave trade exploited Africans primarily for agricultural labor. The Arab slave trade on the other hand, has more often used men for military service, and women for sex and for their wombs – to produce children who will be Muslims. Many Muslim leaders since Muhammad have had harems of hundreds (or even thousands) of non-Muslim young girls and women to service their desires. Converting to Islam does not automatically grant a slave his freedom, although this is said to increase the slave master’s heavenly reward. According to Islamic courts, slave masters may treat their slaves however they choose without fear of penalty.

 

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That picture of Mohammad again :freak:

Also, am I the only one who finds these fun facts to be absolutely hilarious? Moses: freed a nation from slavery. Mohammad: BRUTALLY ENSLAVED AND KILLED 116 MILLION BLACKS :rotfl:

I'm not crazy, I swear :up:

 

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That picture of Mohammad again :freak:

Also, am I the only one who finds these fun facts to be absolutely hilarious? Moses: freed a nation from slavery. Mohammad: BRUTALLY ENSLAVED AND KILLED 116 MILLION BLACKS :rotfl:

I'm not crazy, I swear :up:

Its a tragicomedy of errors and deceptions.

Not very funny for African tribes, who have been nearly wiped out
by one cause more than any other in history: Arab Slavery under Islam.

 

[Repentance]

"O Mankind, We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know each other. Verily the most honored of you in the sight of God is he who is the most righteous of you" (Quran 49:13)

O people, Remember that your Lord is One. An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a black has no superiority over white, nor a white has any superiority over black, except by piety and good action (Taqwa). Indeed the best among you is the one with the best character (Taqwa). Listen to me. Did I convey this to you properly? People responded, Yes. O messenger of God, The Prophet then said, then each one of you who is there must convey this to everyone not present. (Excerpt from the Prophet's Last Sermon as in Baihiqi)

The Prophet said: You should listen to and obey your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian slave whose head looked like a raisin (Bukhari).

 

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However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)


If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)

hen a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

hen a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

 

[egyptianmuslim]

That picture of Mohammad again :freak:

Also, am I the only one who finds these fun facts to be absolutely hilarious? Moses: freed a nation from slavery. Mohammad: BRUTALLY ENSLAVED AND KILLED 116 MILLION BLACKS :rotfl:

I'm not crazy, I swear :up:

Not Moses
Exodus11
And Moses said unto God, Who am I, that I should go unto Pharaoh, and that I should bring forth the children of Israel out of Egypt?

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And he said, Certainly I will be with thee; and this shall be a token unto thee, that I have sent thee: When thou hast brought forth the people out of Egypt, ye shall serve God upon this mountain

And the nation said:

Exodus 14:10
And when Pharaoh drew nigh, the children of Israel lifted up their eyes, and, behold, the Egyptians marched after them; and they were sore afraid: and the children of Israel cried out unto the LORD.

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And they said unto Moses, Because there were no graves in Egypt, hast thou taken us away to die in the wilderness? wherefore hast thou dealt thus with us, to carry us forth out of Egypt?



Exodus 16:1

And they took their journey from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came unto the wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after their departing out of the land of Egypt.

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And the whole congregation of the children of Israel murmured against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness:

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And the children of Israel said unto them, Would to God we had died by the hand of the LORD in the land of Egypt, when we sat by the flesh pots, and when we did eat bread to the full; for ye have brought us forth into this wilderness, to kill this whole assembly with hunger

 

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http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/women_slaves.htm Slave-girls as sexual property in the Quran James M. Arlandson​ ... And forbidden to you are wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands (as prisoners of war) . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 319). (See also Suras 4:3 and 33:50) Thus, women captives are sometimes forced to marry their Muslim masters, regardless of the marital status of the women. That is, the masters are allowed to have sex with the enslaved human property. Maududi says in his comment on the verse that it is lawful for Muslim holy warriors to marry women prisoners of war even when their husbands are still alive. But what happens if the husbands are captured with their wives? Maududi cites a school of law that says Muslims may not marry them, but two other schools say that the marriage between the captive husbands and wives is broken (note 44). But why would a debate over this cruelty emerge? The answer is obvious for those who understand simple justice. No sex should take place between married female prisoners of war and their captors. In fact, no sex should take place between women captives and their Muslim overlords under any circumstance. This sexual injustice is reprehensible, but Allah wills it nonetheless—the Quran says so. Predictably, the hadith perpetuate this Quran-inspired immorality. The hadith are the reports of Muhammad’s actions and words outside of the Quran. The most reliable collector and editor is Bukhari (d. 870). The hadith demonstrate that Muslims jihadists actually have sex with the captured women, whether or not they are married. In the following passage, Khumus is one-fifth of the spoils of war. Ali, Muhammad’s cousin and son-in-law, just finished a relaxing bath. Why? The Prophet sent Ali to Khalid to bring the Khumus (of the booty) and . . . Ali had taken a bath (after a sexual act with a slave-girl from the Khumus). What was Muhammad’s response to the person who hated Ali for this sexual act? Do you hate Ali for this? . . . Don’t hate him, for he deserves more than that from [the] Khumus. (Bukhari) Thus, Muhammad casually believes that slave women who are part of the one-fifth of the spoils of war can be treated like sexual property. Ali is a Muslim hero. He was the husband of Fatima, Muhammad’s daughter by his first wife Khadija. So why would the model prophet for the world scold his son-in-law for having sex with a slave-girl? After all, slaves are fair sexual game. The Quran says so. Moreover, holy jihadists may not practice coitus interruptus with the women they capture, but not for the reason one expects: simple justice. While on a military campaign and away from their wives, Muslim jihadists "received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus." They asked the holy prophet about this, and it is important to note what he did not say. He did not scold them or prohibit any kind of sex whatsoever, declaring it haram (forbidden). Rather, he gets lost in theology and the quirky doctrine of fate: It is better for you not to do so [practice coitus interruptus]. There is no person that is destined to exist, but will come to existence, till the Day of Resurrection. (Bukhari; for parallel hadiths go here and here) That is, these enquiring Muslims should stop doing coitus interruptus, but instead go all the way with the enslaved sex objects. Fate controls who should be born. Muhammad does not prohibit this extremely immoral practice just when the time was right to forbid it. It is one thing for some soldiers in any army to strike out on their own and rape women. All armies have criminal soldiers who commit this wrong act. But it is quite another to codify rape in a sacred text. Islam codifies and legalizes rape. It is disappointing that the Quran does not abolish this sexual crime in the clearest terms: Thou shalt not have sex with slave-girls under any circumstance! Conclusion It may be argued that American slave-owners committed sexual crimes against their slaves before the Civil War (1861-1865), so who are Christians or Americans (the two are not identical) to complain about Islam? In reply, however, the two situations are different. First, it is wrong to compare the US with the Muslim community founded by Muhammad, who claimed divine inspiration. Instead, it is best to compare the founder of a religion (Jesus) with another founder (Muhammad). Second, in no place in the New Testament does God give permission to men—Christian or secular—to have sex with slave-girls. This would violate the spirit of Jesus’ ministry and the entire writings of the New Testament authors, who understood Jesus as fulfilling the Old Testament. If Americans in a bygone era did this, then they were not following God’s law. The Quran, however, codifies and legalizes this sexual crime, and allegedly this book came down from Allah through Gabriel to Muhammad. Any clear-thinking individual can see that having sex with women in their most desperate condition (slavery) is wrong. But the real issue is much larger than questions about American history. The following question must be asked and answered: Is Muhammad, the Quran, and Islam the best prophet, book, and religion to lead humanity into the new millennium? For those of us on the outside of Islam who examine the evidence with as much objectivity as we can and who have not been blinded by a lifetime of devotion to Islam, the answer to this rhetorical question is obvious: no, they are not the best to lead all of humanity into the new millennium. Therefore, all clear-thinking Muslims who live under hyper-religious oppressors must throw them off and ignite secular revolutions, such as the one that happened in Turkey after World War I. Maybe this will happen in Iran, and maybe Iraq will steer clear of sharia (Islamic law), as Iraqis take their first baby steps towards democracy. They must get away from the Quran and Muhammad’s example. Until these revolutions happen and until religious leaders renounce many verses in the Quran and the hadith, we on the outside of this religion are allowed to distrust Muhammad’s religion. And women who are tempted to convert to this religion must stop and think a second time. Supplemental Material This article quotes the Quran and many hadith passages on sex with women prisoners of war. It also analyzes modern Muslim scholars on the topic. They support this practice. In Appendix One, the author answers a Muslim charge that the Old Testament allows this practice. This article analyzes Islam’s permission for men to have sex with slave-girls (scroll down only a few paragraphs). It also cites two Old Testament scholars who explain an Old Testament passage on marriage after a war. This article provides further details on Muhammad’s encouragement to his soldiers to "do it" with women prisoners of war. For information on Muhammad’s "convenient" and "special" marriage privileges, see this short article. This article demonstrates that Muhammad owned slaves. This online booklet cites many passages in the Quran and hadith, surveying women’s place in Islam. The facts lead to one conclusion: Islam does not honor women. As for slavery generally, this article demonstrates that Muslims practiced the slave trade. The article tracks this dirty business up to today in the Islamic world. This short article contrasts Islam and Christianity on slavery. This is an overview article on slavery in Islam. This webpage has many links to articles and online booklets on women in Islam and Christianity. This page in an online index refers to many articles and Quranic passages on slavery. by James Malcolm Arlandson.

 

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Save these posters while you can!
Cause soon the Catholic Controlled Cops (CCC)
will probably try to get them taken down
in the name of free speech!

 

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Save these posters while you can!
Cause soon the Catholic Controlled Cops (CCC)
will probably try to get them taken down
in the name of free speech!

My Moses vs Mohammed thread on ChristianForums.com was taken down!

 

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http://www.islam-watch.org/Lennard/Islam-Sacred-Stone-of-Mecca.htm Islam's Sacred Stone of Mecca... by Lennard James 26 May, 2009 "A religion is a unified system of beliefs and practices relative to sacred things, that is to say, things set apart and forbidden—beliefs and practices, which unite into one single moral community called a Church, all those who adhere to them". -- Emile Durkheim ​ The Black Stone is a Muslim object of reverence, which according to Islamic traditions dates back to the time of Adam and Eve. Many consider it to be a Tektite. It is the eastern cornerstone of the Kaaba, the ancient Sacred Stone towards which Muslims pray in the center of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. It is covered with an elaborately gold-threaded embroidered Quranic verses on a black-draped cloth. As any non-Muslim in the temple would be slain on sight, and photography is generally prohibited, this stone is shrouded in mystery? However, if you do succeed in tracking down the three accounts of the pilgrimage of Hajj to Mecca you might be considered a lucky one! What these views reveal, is a polished black stone of which less than two feet is visible… This stone is set in large solid silver mountings. The whole resembles, quite deliberately, for reasons which will emerge, ‘the vulva of the goddess’! There is severe damage to the stone, as it was taken away by the sacrilegious Qarmatians in 930 CE and broken into a number of pieces before returning the pieces for a great price. The Stone pieces are held together by a silver frame, which is fastened by silver nails to the Stone. The Stone is roughly 30 cm (12 in.) in diameter, and 1.5 meters (5 ft.) above the ground. When pilgrims circle the Kaaba as part of the Tawaf ritual of the Hajj, many of them try, if possible, to stop and kiss the Black Stone, ‘emulating the kiss that it received from Prophet Muhammad.’ If they cannot reach it, then they are to point to it on each of their seven circuits around the Kaaba. The Black Stone of Kaaba in Mecca is called Al-hajar Al-aswad in Arabic. The word Kaaba (also Ka'ba, or Ka'bah) means ‘The Cube’. That Muslims now refer to it as the ‘Hand of Allah’, which does not diminish the urge for all those, who complete the pilgrimage to Mecca to touch or kiss this sacred Islamic object! The Black Stone's Origin 'A principal sacred object in Pagan Arabian religion was the stone... Such stones were thought to be the residence of a god; hence the term applied to them by the Byzantine Christian writers of the fifth and sixth centuries: 'baetyl', from bet'el, 'the house of god'.' [1] 'In north Arabian temples the image of the deity sometimes stood in the open air or it could be sheltered in a qubbah, a vaulted niche... Not to be confused with the qubbah is the word for ka'bah, for a cube-shaped walled structure which... served as a shelter for the sacred stones.' [2] Camphausen, in his article [3], reveals that the misogynic Muslim religion has its origins in the worship of goddess. Allah is a revamped version of the ancient goddess Al'Lat, and it was her shrine, which has since continued with little change, as the Kaaba. The known history of Mohammed reveals that he was born around 570 CE into a tribe of the Koreishe (Quraysh), who not only worshipped the goddess Q're, but were the sworn guardians of her shrine. By 622, Mohammed was preaching the ways of his god, Allah, and was driven out by his own tribe as a result. There are also various opinions as to what the Black Stone actually is… The Muslims say that the Stone was found by Abraham (Ibrahim) and his son Ishmael (Ismail) when they were searching for stones with which to build the Kaaba (House of God). They recognized its worth and made it one of the building's cornerstones. The Kaaba at Mecca describes the shape of the black stone structure on a marble base, which stands in the centre court of the Great Mosque, Masjidul Haram, at the centre of Mecca. It stands about 50 feet high by about 35 feet wide. Set into the eastern corner is the sacred stone. This Kaaba is a cubed shaped temple (according to Islam) rebuilt by Abraham and his son Ishmael. Reverently draped in black cloth throughout the year, it beckons to every Muslim of the world to come to its sacred ground and perform the ritual of Hajj. The Kaaba is the canonical center of the Islamic world; every pious act, particularly prayer, is directed towards it. Once a year it plays host to the greatest convention of Muslim believers, and stands ready to sanctify the Umrah travelers through rest of the year. The official starting point of the walk around the Kaaba, that forms the core of the holy pilgrimage (hajj). During the Tawaf, the pilgrims kiss or touch the black stone as they circumambulate the Kaaba. Some Muslims are more willing to believe that the Stone itself has some supernatural powers. They believe that this ‘stone fell from the sky during the time of Adam and Eve, and that it has the power to cleanse worshippers of their sins by absorbing them into itself’. They say that the Black Stone was once a pure and dazzling white, and it has turned black because of the sins it has absorbed over the ages. It is remarkable, however, that even though the temple contained 360 idols worshipped before Muhammad's prophethood, the Black Stone was never kissed or made an idol of worship by the pagan Arabs. In fact, the Kaaba was never worshipped by the idolaters prior to Muhammad's Prophethood. The building contained idols of worship but the building itself was never an object of worship.

 

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[The Horn]

These things are not the fault of Mohammed , but of Muslims who lived long after him . Mohammed did not write the Koran ; it was compiled long after his death based on all kinds of sayings ATTRIBUTED to him .
Very little is known about Mohammed's actual life , and after his death,
all manner of legends rose about him . As far as we know, Mohammed was illiterate and could not have written the Koran himself . We don't know that any of the claims made in it actually represent his beliefs , views, and intentions .

 

[Nazaroo]

These things are not the fault of Mohammed , but of Muslims who lived long after him . Mohammed did not write the Koran ; it was compiled long after his death based on all kinds of sayings ATTRIBUTED to him .
Very little is known about Mohammed's actual life , and after his death,
all manner of legends rose about him . As far as we know, Mohammed was illiterate and could not have written the Koran himself . We don't know that any of the claims made in it actually represent his beliefs , views, and intentions .

Lets see if your logic works elsewhere:

"These are not the fault of Hitler,
but of Nazis who lived long after him.
Hitler did not write Mein Campf;
it was complied long after his death,
based on all kinds of sayings attributed to him.
Very little is known about Hitler's actual life,
and after his death, all manner of legends rose about him.
As far as we know, Hitler was illiterate and could not have
written Mein Campf himself.
We dont know that any of the claims mad in it
actually represent his beliefs, views and intentions."

Sounds Legit!

 

[Rusha]

These things are not the fault of Mohammed , but of Muslims who lived long after him . Mohammed did not write the Koran ; it was compiled long after his death based on all kinds of sayings ATTRIBUTED to him .
Very little is known about Mohammed's actual life , and after his death,
all manner of legends rose about him . As far as we know, Mohammed was illiterate and could not have written the Koran himself . We don't know that any of the claims made in it actually represent his beliefs , views, and intentions .

Leaving the Koran out of this, isn't it enough that he had a relationship with a nine year old girl? That alone makes him one of the lowest forms of human scum that ever disgraced the planet earth.

 

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Leaving the Koran out of this, isn't it enough that he had a relationship with a nine year old girl? That alone makes him one of the lowest forms of human scum that ever disgraced the planet earth.

yep that says too much right there.

 

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