The panic is worse than the disease!

[User Name]

Yes. If 50% of the population is infected with only 1% deaths, then that would be 1.6 million deaths in the USA. Some medics are predicting 3% deaths.

So far this flu season, about 1% of people in the United States have developed symptoms severe enough to be hospitalized, which is similar to the rate last season according to data from the CDC, while the death rate from seasonal flu is typically around 0.1%" -- https://www.livescience.com/new-coro...-with-flu.html

In the study published Feb. 18 in the China CDC Weekly, researchers found a death rate from COVID-19 to be around 2.3% in mainland China, but that is in a nation of heavy smokers and heavy pollution. In Hubei Province, the epicenter of the outbreak, the death rate reached 2.9%; in other provinces of China, that rate was just 0.4%, according to the China CDC Weekly study.

In Italy the death rate for coronavirus is estimated to be over 6%, which is much higher than elsewhere, but it all depends on who gets it. I understand that there it is mainly elderly with preexisting conditions who have died.

You just watch the 'Flu is worse' lay-folks slide away as this illness gets going.

More people are dying now from seasonal flu, but.coronavirus does have a higher fatality rate so it will undoubtedly surpass the flu as it spreads. The question is by how much.

 

[eider]

So far this flu season, about 1% of people in the United States have developed symptoms severe enough to be hospitalized, which is similar to the rate last season according to data from the CDC, while the death rate from seasonal flu is typically around 0.1%" -- https://www.livescience.com/new-coro...-with-flu.html

In the study published Feb. 18 in the China CDC Weekly, researchers found a death rate from COVID-19 to be around 2.3% in mainland China, but that is in a nation of heavy smokers and heavy pollution. In Hubei Province, the epicenter of the outbreak, the death rate reached 2.9%; in other provinces of China, that rate was just 0.4%, according to the China CDC Weekly study.

In Italy the death rate for coronavirus is estimated to be over 6%, which is much higher than elsewhere, but it all depends on who gets it. I understand that there it is mainly elderly with preexisting conditions who have died.



More people are dying now from seasonal flu, but.coronavirus does have a higher fatality rate so it will undoubtedly surpass the flu as it spreads. The question is by how much.

Yeah. All good info.
We will hit a peak in about four weeks, you will get in about 6-8 weeks maybe.
it would be very good if you would be right and this is all a medical bubble.

 

[eider]

What country are you from again? Whatever it is, go back there.

President Trump's daily news briefings come on to our lounge every day.
It's a small world now.
I am already at home, don't have to go back anywhere.

Your President is deciding what to do. You would never criticise him, I know.

He knows better than you.

 

[User Name]

Yeah. All good info.
We will hit a peak in about four weeks, you will get in about 6-8 weeks maybe.
it would be very good if you would be right and this is all a medical bubble.

Singapore has had 243 confirmed cases of COVID-19. Of that number, 119 have recovered and 134 are still active. No one there has died yet.

 

[Trump Gurl]

President Trump's daily news briefings come on to our lounge every day.

Maybe you should listen and learn then. Right now, you don't know much.

 

[Trump Gurl]

Gingrich: If it were not for Trump's actions, thousands of Americans would be dead now
https://www.theblaze.com/news/gingrich_trump_coronavirus_saved_lives

 

[eider]

Maybe you should listen and learn then. Right now, you don't know much.

You can't start moaning about your President's decisions and actions now. You'd look really daft, don't you think?

:rotfl:

 

[Trump Gurl]

You can't start moaning about your President's decisions and actions now

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have never moaned about Trump's positions. As usual you sound like you are high. You are definitely a waste of time to speak with.

 

[WYRose]

OK......... so where did you have in mind when you wrote:-


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No.... it is not going to be ready fr some time, which is why countries are doing their best to spread the peak of the infection when it comes.



I just read the junk that you wrote in your previous post, is all.
Dear oh dear......... you sure can sweet-talk.......

I don't write junk. I write truth.
Your IQ is too low to understand mature things.

 

[ok doser]

... 3,060 per day ...

it's safe to assume that many of those would be from the group of 7,452 Americans who die every day under normal conditions

 

[ok doser]

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have never moaned about Trump's positions. As usual you sound like you are high. You are definitely a waste of time to speak with.

He's trolling you

 

[ok doser]

You can't start moaning about your President's decisions and actions now. You'd look really daft, don't you think?

:rotfl:

Praying for you eider

praying that God will give you peace

 

[7djengo7]

But it would be hard to know (or judge) what preparations are not 'panic' actions.

No, not really. Would you not consider those actions toward preparation that are motivated by fear (from notions of what might be coming in the near future) panic actions?

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If all shops are services close down around you,

Right, because fear that such circumstances may be near at hand is highly unlikely to cause people to scramble to try to get--right this minute--whatever they think they may need, and can get, from those shops and services.

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or you get quarantined, and you only have a week's supplies at home then you will get accused of being irresponsible,

Accused by whom?

Irresponsible to whom?

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especially if you're trying to cadge stuff off your neighbours who you could have accused of being panickers.... interesting.

From each according to his ability, and to each according to his needs, though, right?

"who you could have accused of being panickers"

Would you say that to believe that someone has done something out of panic is, necessarily, to think derisively or disdainfully of them?

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Buying for a fortnight's (or month's) isolation is not panic. Bulk buying in fear is panic.

You're right to say that buying is not panic. The fear motivating one to buy whatever it is one is motivated, by fear, to buy--that's panic. One can be panicked into "buying for a fortnight's (or month's) isolation" just as well as one can do so without being panicked into it. Bulk-buying in fear is not panic; the fear in which one is bulk-buying is panic.

Do you wish to claim that the recent, ubiquitous, media-cued, en masse runs on grocery stores for bulk quantities of certain products are not motivated by fear?

 

[eider]

I don't write junk. I write truth.
Your IQ is too low to understand mature things.

Let's change the subject a bit.
If and when you (and I) get this virus, how will you try to reduce it's effects?

 

[eider]

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have never moaned about Trump's positions. As usual you sound like you are high. You are definitely a waste of time to speak with.

In which case you will be supporting every guidance and advice from your government about the coronavirus.
That's really great.
One less moaner.
Great.

 

[eider]

Do you wish to claim that the recent, ubiquitous, media-cued, en masse runs on grocery stores for bulk quantities of certain products are not motivated by fear?

Some are, but preparing for difficulties is common-sense.
Common-sense is calm careful preparation and planning.

It's not all panic and fear.

 

[eider]

Praying for you eider

praying that God will give you peace

Now why don't I believe a word that you say?

 

[ok doser]

Now why don't I believe a word that you say?

Because God has chosen to harden your heart?

 

[7djengo7]

Some are, but preparing for difficulties is common-sense.
Common-sense is calm careful preparation and planning.

It's not all panic and fear.

So, one woman's pushing and shoving her way through a crowded market with her trolley, trying to get her hands on as much bath tissue as she can, for her household's needs, is common-sense--and calm, careful preparation and planning--in action; whereas another woman's doing the same is, instead, due to panic and fear?

 

[User Name]

The sickness has leveled off in China.

If you have 25 minutes, I highly recommend this video on the actions of the Chinese government from the initial wake of the outbreak to last month, quite shocking:

Wuhan Lockdown