RANSOM FOR MANY OR ALL ?

[clefty]

So you refuse to tell what the Bible says to do and not to do on the Sabbath.

If you ever decide to, then make sure you give the scripture references.

It’s less I refuse and more that I believe those that WANT to know will find it themselves.

Those that couldnt care less will not benefit.

Which just leaves those like you that couldnt care less but just wanna fight...

Proverbs 12:1 saves me a lot of stress...

 

[God's Truth]

It’s less I refuse and more that I believe those that WANT to know will find it themselves.

Those that couldnt care less will not benefit.

You don't obey the Sabbath just like Jesus and Paul did, like you said you did.

You lie and are a hypocrite.

Heater usually kicks on itself...

Sure...but usually it’s positive uplifting healing too...

Well...now we have to discuss definitions and such...work...house...lift...anything...but usually the desire is to minimize...

Sabbath helps keep emergencies to a minimum as preparedness is preventive...and emergencies are ox in the ditch...

Given time we could come up with a much longer list...

You already proved you don't obey the Sabbath just like Paul used to do.

 

[clefty]

You don't obey the Sabbath just like Jesus and Paul did, like you said you did.

I resume the Sabbath you continue the Pharisee...what a great team...

You lie and are a hypocrite.

some of mine warn me that I shouldn’t even reach out to yours today...despite being in a ditch...”they wont starve in one day”...I am more and more inclined to agree with them...

You already proved you don't obey the Sabbath just like Paul used to do.

I don’t obey the Sabbath...no one obeys the Sabbath...you give a day animation?

Even Paul admitted his failings and since we don’t know everything Paul did we can’t judge...he said he kept Sabbaths as the seventh day holy well that is a good enough start...more than most around here...

 

[God's Truth]

I resume the Sabbath you continue the Pharisee...what a great team...

some of mine warn me that I shouldn’t even reach out to yours today...despite being in a ditch...”they wont starve in one day”...I am more and more inclined to agree with them...


I don’t obey the Sabbath...no one obeys the Sabbath...you give a day animation?

Even Paul admitted his failings and since we don’t know everything Paul did we can’t judge...he said he kept Sabbaths as the seventh day holy well that is a good enough start...more than most around here...

How do you ever get to think you can call me a Pharisee? You are exactly like a Pharisee---a violent person enforcing the Sabbath, the Sabbath which you don't obey. You are a hypocrite, and worse.

 

[clefty]

How do you ever get to think you can call me a Pharisee?

hmmm maybe you are right... at least Pharisees taught to obey the Law...which you dont...

oh wait yes you do...just not the seventh day Sabbath one...you changed how to keep that...which makes you exactly like Pharisee...even in spirit judging others keeping of it...

Yup...spoke of you and yours yesterday...we studied the story of Uzzah who sinned presumptuously as he was zealous to protect the law...and as did David mishandling the transport of the Ark...he repented and finished its return journey according to the instructions given to His people...

prayed for you and others that we all come to understand that Yah seriously means what He says about carrying the commandments through our days...

wondered what you would say to my lifting the walker for a crippled woman fellowshipping with us to put it in her car...oh and what you would say on my thinking to change the thermostat for those hot in an assisted living home we visited...

we recalled others will judge us our Sabbath keeping which are shadows of good things still to come...

You are exactly like a Pharisee

like Nicodeamus curious to understand? Or like Paul honestly admitting my failures of the flesh...?

a violent person enforcing the Sabbath,

violent...hmmm yeah I guess disobedient pharisees felt He was violent calling them snakes brood of vipers Satan their father...and synagogue of Satan...oh and the moneychangers too would consider Him violent beating them out of the Temple...

nobody likes correction especially those that claim piety and perfection...and teach others to obey them and how to their way...

the Sabbath which you don't obey.

I fail many other ways...is why my need of Him Grace and repentance...it’s a long race to overcome...ask Paul

You are a hypocrite, and worse.

I judge those claiming to play a game which by their fruits reveal they actually dont play the game...don’t even try...but rather change both TIMES and Law...

you judge one playing the game his not hitting the mark...big difference...

 

[God's Truth]

hmmm maybe you are right... at least Pharisees taught to obey the Law...which you dont...

The Pharisees were hypocrites, like you.
They also enforced the old law, and not the new law, like you.

You are proud when you should be ashamed.

oh wait yes you do...just not the seventh day Sabbath one...you changed how to keep that...

Jesus did that.

You don't keep the Sabbath day

You are like the hypocrite Pharisees. You try to enforce the old law while not obeying it yourself.

which makes you exactly like Pharisee...even in spirit judging others keeping of it...

What? You said you try but don't. You don't keep it. Jesus says the way you judge others---you will be judged the same way.

How do you like it false judge?

Yup...spoke of you and yours yesterday...we studied the story of Uzzah who sinned presumptuously as he was zealous to protect the law...and as did David mishandling the transport of the Ark...he repented and finished its return journey according to the instructions given to His people...

prayed for you and others that we all come to understand that Yah seriously means what He says about carrying the commandments through our days...

You need to pray for yourself.

wondered what you would say to my lifting the walker for a crippled woman fellowshipping with us to put it in her car...oh and what you would say on my thinking to change the thermostat for those hot in an assisted living home we visited...

You are the one who calls people foul names and says they don't keep the Sabbath You show yourself to be a violent hypocrite.

You are exactly what you call me, as are all those who agree with you.

we recalled others will judge us our Sabbath keeping which are shadows of good things still to come...

Jesus came and it was his shadow.

like Nicodeamus curious to understand? Or like Paul honestly admitting my failures of the flesh...?

Like neither, but like this:

Matthew 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

violent...hmmm yeah I guess disobedient pharisees felt He was violent calling them snakes brood of vipers Satan their father...and synagogue of Satan...oh and the moneychangers too would consider Him violent beating them out of the Temple...

Jesus didn't verbally abuse people the way you do.

nobody likes correction especially those that claim piety and perfection...and teach others to obey them and how to their way...

You are so lost you can't get it straight if you want to commend the Pharisees or go against them.

I fail many other ways...is why my need of Him Grace and repentance...it’s a long race to overcome...ask Paul

You are a failure and it is why you aren't even in the race.

Revelation 2:7 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.

I judge those claiming to play a game which by their fruits reveal they actually dont play the game...don’t even try...but rather change both TIMES and Law...

You make every excuse why you don't obey the Sabbath.

you judge one playing the game his not hitting the mark...big difference...

See that, more excuses from a lost soul.

 

[clefty]

The Pharisees were hypocrites, like you.

nope...pharisees kept the law they told people HOW to...

I am telling people keep the Sabbath Holy...not how to...

You are telling people HOW to keep the Sabbath...not just the seventh day but every day...

They also enforced the old law, and not the new law, like you.

again you miss...I am NOT enforcing but telling people to keep it...Yahushua taught to keep what they taught not what they did...I however say dont do as you do or as you teach...

You are proud when you should be ashamed.

of you?

Jesus did that.

nope He did NOT change Sabbath into keeping every day Holy...

You don't keep the Sabbath day

least I try...you don’t even do that..

You are like the hypocrite Pharisees. You try to enforce the old law while not obeying it yourself.

so DO as I teach Holy the seventh day ONLY and NOT as I do...however you think I break it...

What? You said you try but don't.

sure I do...you accuse I don’t

You don't keep it.

is why my need for repentance grace mercy and Paul admits the same...we play the same game...you do not...add now to your “every day sabbath” the error of “one sin and you are LOST”...you just keep making it worse

Jesus says the way you judge others you will be judged the same way.

is why so far I am not judging you for HOW you keep it (besides your every day idol)...but I am judging WHEN you do...feel free to judge me for the same...

How do you like it false judge?

I consider how you discern scripture and divide the word and use scripture for scripture and realize your judgement is off...to even judge me as false judge...

You need to pray for yourself.

sure...how we carry the commandments His Law through our lives the day to day of it is central to it all...

You are the one who calls people foul names and says they don't keep the Sabbath You show yourself to be a violent hypocrite.

again a hypocrit is one fails doing what he sets out to do...but one who says he does set out to do it and then doesnt set out to do it...

You say you do obey...you dont even try with one of them...

You are exactly what you call me, as are all those who agree with you.

again your judgement and discernment is EXACTLY in question within all this...

Jesus came and it was his shadow.

Jesus came yup...Sabbath was NOT His shadow...but He is coming again and the shadows are still pointing to the good things to come...Like His coming again...

Like neither, but like this:

Matthew 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

nope...that would be YOU as you wish to win others to Jesus and then teach them your errors...good job

Jesus didn't verbally abuse people the way you do.

you just cited Matt 23 which is full of strong correction which unrepentant pharisees must have felt He abused them with...repentant ones accepted His correction...

You are so lost you can't get it straight if you want to commend the Pharisees or go against them.

as my Master taught me...judge people pharisees too by their fruits...

You are a failure and it is why you aren't even in the race.

ouch wow...not agreeing with YOU YOUR WAY has me a failure and not even in the race? WOW...

Revelation 2:7 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.

said to a church which had forgotten its FIRST LOVE...you do the same...forgetting Him His way your first love...you now love your “every day is Holy” idol...

If the game is changed to “every day is Holy” why was a trophy from the original game given? Sabbath teaching Manna is awarded to Pergamon church Rev 2:17...

That is like winning a marathon and receiving a chess trophy...LOL

You make every excuse why you don't obey the Sabbath.

excuse? I am not changing the TIMES and Law as you are...I might fail in my attempts to keep the TIMES and Law but again that is different...you don’t even play the same game...you don’t even TRY to follow Him His Way His TIMES and Law...how He demonstrated and taught...

See that, more excuses from a lost soul.

Excuse? Scratch me off Inquisitional list...your erroroneos judgement is at least consistent...

Believing as you do the false witness that Jesus changed the customs Moses delivered concludes with persecution also false...Matt 5:11...

Thanks for the blessing...

 

[God's Truth]

nope...pharisees kept the law they told people HOW to...

Matthew 23:1 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: ² “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. ³ So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.

I am telling people keep the Sabbath Holy...not how to...

You don't know how to! You are a hypocrite and a self proclaimed practicing sinner.

You are telling people HOW to keep the Sabbath...not just the seventh day but every day...

That is what I am doing.

again you miss...I am NOT enforcing but telling people to keep it...

You are enforcing your fake Sabbath day command by calling me Satan and condemned and all your other abusive stuff.

Yahushua taught to keep what they taught not what they did...

Which you do neither.

You preach some made up Sabbath day rules and then break up.

I however say dont do as you do or as you teach...

You go against people who preach the truth, just like Jesus says would happen.


John 16:2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God. 3 They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. 4 I have told you this, so that when their time comes you will remember that I warned you about them.

nope He did NOT change Sabbath into keeping every day Holy...

Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath and he made changes to it for the new covenant.

least I try...you don’t even do that..

Your "trying" is sin.

so DO as I teach Holy the seventh day ONLY and NOT as I do...however you think I break it...

I wouldn't do anything a person such as yourself says to do.

sure I do...you accuse I don’t

That is just more of your dishonesty.

Anyone can see you are accusing and condemning, all the while you admit to sinning every Sabbath day.

is why my need for repentance grace mercy and Paul admits the same...we play the same game...

Stop slandering Paul.

you do not...add now to your “every day sabbath” the error of “one sin and you are LOST”...you just keep making it worse

is why so far I am not judging you for HOW you keep it (besides your every day idol)...but I am judging WHEN you do...feel free to judge me for the same...

You are judged as that, Jesus says.

I consider how you discern scripture and divide the word and use scripture for scripture and realize your judgement is off...to even judge me as false judge...

You just keep showing what you are and what you do.

Jesus came yup...Sabbath was NOT His shadow...but He is coming again and the shadows are still pointing to the good things to come...Like His coming again...

Anyone not in the light and will not be saved when Jesus comes again.

nope...that would be YOU as you wish to win others to Jesus and then teach them your errors...good job

I am showing others God's Truth.

you just cited Matt 23 which is full of strong correction which unrepentant pharisees must have felt He abused them with...repentant ones accepted His correction...

Jesus was verbally abusive like you are.

Jesus didn't call them foul things all day every day.

You are no Jesus and nothing like him.

as my Master taught me...judge people pharisees too by their fruits...

Who is your Master? What denomination do you go to?

excuse? I am not changing the TIMES and Law as you are...I might fail in my attempts to keep the TIMES and Law but again that is different...you don’t even play the same game...you don’t even TRY to follow Him His Way His TIMES and Law...how He demonstrated and taught...

You admit to being a practicing sinner.

You know what the Bible says about that?

Excuse? Scratch me off Inquisitional list...your erroroneos judgement is at least consistent...

Believing as you do the false witness that Jesus changed the customs Moses delivered concludes with persecution also false...Matt 5:11...

Thanks for the blessing...

Of course Jesus changed it when he made a new covenant.

 

[clefty]

Matthew 23:1 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: ² “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. ³ So you must be careful to do everything they tell you.

which you do not do with your “every day is a Holy day...eat wherever”

But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.

especially since they made up laws NOT FROM MOSES SEAT...like you your “every day is Holy eat whatever”

You don't know how to! You are a hypocrite and a self proclaimed practicing sinner.

keep seventh day Holy...the Way is to overcome...not once but every day...

That is what I am doing.

yes EVERY day is a Sabbath to you so you should never carry anything or turn on your heater or fix your plumbing...LOL

You are enforcing your fake Sabbath day command by calling me Satan and condemned and all your other abusive stuff.

“Remember the seventh day to keep it Holy “ you call His WORD fake? Wow...so did Satan...

Which you do neither.

You preach some made up Sabbath day rules and then break up.

“Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy...six days shalt thou labor”...except you you never labor as every day is Holy for you...and your make up rules like dont turn on the heater or carry anything or talk only about God or never fix plumbing EVERY DAY...

You go against people who preach the truth, just like Jesus says would happen.


John 16:2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God. 3 They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. 4 I have told you this, so that when their time comes you will remember that I warned you about them.

to know the Father is to be LIKE HIM keep His commandments...to abide in the Son is to LIVE LIKE HIM...to Love is to LOVE AS HE DID...your “every day is Holy eat whatever” is NOT like either the Son or the Father...

Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath and he made changes to it for the new covenant.

nope...in fact gave it back again to gentiles...Sabbath is made for Man...ALL

Certainly did not make it into every day is Holy...never fix your plumbing...

Your "trying" is sin.

you are taking away from scripture the stay faithful be vigilant stay faithful repent parts...

I wouldn't do anything a person such as yourself says to do.

you do what you want...not what He did or tuaught...is obvious with your “every day is Holy eat whatever”

That is just more of your dishonesty.

Anyone can see you are accusing and condemning, all the while you admit to sinning every Sabbath day.

you claim I am sinning as YOU came up with rules just like the Pharisees claimed He was breaking the Sabbath as He recovered the Sabbath from them...

Stop slandering Paul.

Romans 7:23 we need Him His grace every day...

You are judged as that, Jesus says.

He broke man made laws like “don’t fix plumbing” and apparently at all any day as EVERY day is Holy to you...LOL

You just keep showing what you are and what you do.

you add to scripture and detract from it so no surprise you do the same to reality...


[quoet]Anyone not in the light and will not be saved when Jesus comes again.[/quote] your light is false as false fire and false worship...

I am showing others God's Truth.

just naming yourself that is not DOING so...your fruits reveal otherwise...

Jesus was verbally abusive like you are.

at times yes He was but I think you meant to say otherwise

Jesus didn't call them foul things all day every day.

yup just when He needed to

You are no Jesus and nothing like him.

just following Him His Way...as Paul did

Who is your Master?

He is...

What denomination do you go to?

no creed here...I follow the Way...

You admit to being a practicing sinner.

You know what the Bible says about that?

I am forgiven...

Of course Jesus changed it when he made a new covenant.

Luke wrote otherwise...called you and yours false witnesses...and is why Sabbath keeping continued...

 

[God's Truth]

which you do not do with your “every day is a Holy day...eat wherever”

There is no earthly temple building anymore and no more Pharisees.
We don't do what Pharisees tell us to do.

especially since they made up laws NOT FROM MOSES SEAT...like you your “every day is Holy eat whatever”

You don't see how you contradict yourself and sound ridiculous.

Let's take this slowly so you might understand and be helped.

Jesus says to the Jews that believed in him to do what the Pharisees said because they sit in Moses' seat---you tell me to do that---but then in your next breath to try to justify your false way, you say the Pharisees made up things to do.

So you show yourself to be twisty.

keep seventh day Holy...the Way is to overcome...not once but every day...

That is right. Do you get it now?

yes EVERY day is a Sabbath to you so you should never carry anything or turn on your heater or fix your plumbing...LOL

Every day is a Sabbath and I should not do the work of carrying my sins any longer, because Jesus takes care of it for me.
Don’t any works of purifying myself, because Jesus does all the purifying works now.
Do not to eat anything that I make, but eat of the Lord by obeying his commands.
Do not think thoughts that that are not of God, and then speak of things that sinners speak about, rather, think how Jesus teaches us to think and talk.
Don't kindle your own fire because it will lead you to Hell. Don’t make your own clothes to wear, but clothe yourself in Christ.

“Remember the seventh day to keep it Holy “ you call His WORD fake? Wow...so did Satan...

You don't get it, just like Satan didn't.

“Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy...six days shalt thou labor”...except you you never labor as every day is Holy for you...and your make up rules like dont turn on the heater or carry anything or talk only about God or never fix plumbing EVERY DAY...

God is the one who said not to ignite a fire or carry anything and to only talk about Him.

You don't even know what God says, or you lie and know He said it but claim he didn't.

I don't know how you can claim He didn't say it when I gave your the scriptures.

to know the Father is to be LIKE HIM keep His commandments...to abide in the Son is to LIVE LIKE HIM...to Love is to LOVE AS HE DID...your “every day is Holy eat whatever” is NOT like either the Son or the Father...

Why don't you know that God said not to work on the Sabbath and not to carry or kindle a fire or talk about anything but Him?

Why don't you know those things yet say you obey God?

You are a phony and don't know God.

 

[clefty]

There is no earthly temple building anymore and no more Pharisees.

yes...and yet sacrifices are still given tithes and offerings and holy days remain as memorials of His calendar and festivals...not man’s traditions

and rabbis/scholars/teachers/pastors guide us into understanding the issues of keeping the Law

We don't do what Pharisees tell us to do.

but I prefer listening to those that actually play the game than those that reject it completely...

You don't see how you contradict yourself and sound ridiculous.

it’s simple actually what was determined from Moses seat and what came after as man’s tradition?

Let's take this slowly so you might understand and be helped.

Jesus says to the Jews that believed in him to do what the Pharisees said because they sit in Moses' seat---you tell me to do that---

ok so do what Moses taught...keep in mind Yahushua even addressed divorce which Moses allowed...

but then in your next breath to try to justify your false way, you say the Pharisees made up things to do.

my false way? Keeping the seventh day Holy is not my false way nor is it the Pharisees but established by our Creator...what they ALSO did was things NOT which Moses taught...is why you have to study the original to spot the counterfeit...

So you show yourself to be twisty.

not at all but as throughout history HOW to keep the Sabbath holy was to be determined...is the game...Yah started it by saying anyone who profanes Sabbath by working on it shall be killed still later He had to clarify what work was to include making fire..and then to show how serious He was He had a man killed for picking up sticks...but CONTEXT is key...this man picked up sticks therefore sinned presumptuously knowingly intentionally and deliberately which was JUST explained as a reason to be cut off...so Yah made this ruling NOT man...later rulings by man determined when a carrying a burden was work related or not...and so it went...just like the understanding of the fire...to build and to extinguish...but yes I would rather listen to the pros and refs actually playing the game then snarky judgements from the passing peanut gallery...

That is right. Do you get it now?

LOL...so eager you are for your everyday Sabbath you read it INTO everything even my post...I was referring to OVERCOMING everyday...not keeping Sabbath everyday...you seem to think that once SAVED you no longer sin and keep every day Holy...which is NOT what is taught in scripture but that we die daily and overcome daily and rest every seventh day NOT daily...

Every day is a Sabbath and I should not do the work of carrying my sins any longer,

ummm no one can work to earn salvation...as was made clear in the OT already

because Jesus takes care of it for me.

IF you repent DAILY for transgressions and even those you don’t even realize you did...as ALL have sinned and Paul still struggled in the flesh but with his mind to serve the Law...1 Cor 9:27

Don’t any works of purifying myself, because Jesus does all the purifying works now.

not taught...as we are to keep ourselves clean 2 Cor 7:1

Do not to eat anything that I make, but eat of the Lord by obeying his commands.

you are being rediculous...you don’t eat anything you make? How bad a cook are you? LOL

Do not think thoughts that that are not of God, and then speak of things that sinners speak about, rather, think how Jesus teaches us to think and talk.

except when He says DO AS I DO...My Father’s will...then you scheme and devise your own “every day is Holy eat whatever” idolatry

Don't kindle your own fire because it will lead you to Hell.

and EVERY day not just the seventh day Holy...no heat for you in winter I guess...

Don’t make your own clothes to wear, but clothe yourself in Christ.

oh my...yes dont make covering of leaves but blood coverings He provided...but NOW that is spiritually understood and we are to be modestly dressed...I would hope you are...1 Timothy 2:9,10 note soundness of mind...

You don't get it, just like Satan didn't.

seventh day Sabbath is NOT fake...Satan got it...but LIKE YOU and others too MAD at a day off made for them...he determined His Ways as “not dispensed to me”

God is the one who said not to ignite a fire or carry anything and to only talk about Him.

which you now claim is a ruling for EVERY DAY...as EVERY DAY is Holy and has become the Sabbath...

You don't even know what God says, or you lie and know He said it but claim he didn't.

I don't know how you can claim He didn't say it when I gave your the scriptures.

but not for your EVERY DAY is Holy we can eat whatever...

Why don't you know that God said not to work on the Sabbath and not to carry or kindle a fire or talk about anything but Him?

Why don't you know those things yet say you obey God?

You are a phony and don't know God.

why don’t you know that to know the Father is to be LIKE HIM do His Will keep His Commandments to abide in His Son is to LIVE AS HE DID...just like...

Instead you create your own idolatry which now includes not washing, not eating food you make, or wearing any clothes...yikes!!

 

[God's Truth]

yes...and yet sacrifices are still given tithes and offerings and holy days remain as memorials of His calendar and festivals...not man’s traditions

There is no more earthly temple and no more earthly high priests and no more animal sacrifices.

and rabbis/scholars/teachers/pastors guide us into understanding the issues of keeping the Law

Jesus says not to call anyone a rabbi.

You don’t obey God.

but I prefer listening to those that actually play the game than those that reject it completely...

There is a new law, and it doesn’t include hypocrisy, like what you practice.

it’s simple actually what was determined from Moses seat and what came after as man’s tradition?

Jesus is Greater than Moses.

Hebrews 3:3Jesus has been found worthy of greater honor than Moses, just as the builder of a house has greater honor than the house itself.

ok so do what Moses taught...keep in mind Yahushua even addressed divorce which Moses allowed...

So obviously we don’t obey Moses then we obey Jesus!

 

[God's Truth]

my false way? Keeping the seventh day Holy is not my false way nor is it the Pharisees but established by our Creator...what they ALSO did was things NOT which Moses taught...is why you have to study the original to spot the counterfeit...

You keep making excuses for not obeying.

not at all but as throughout history HOW to keep the Sabbath holy was to be determined...is the game...Yah started it by saying anyone who profanes Sabbath by working on it shall be killed still later He had to clarify what work was to include making fire..and then to show how serious He was He had a man killed for picking up sticks...but CONTEXT is key...this man picked up sticks therefore sinned presumptuously knowingly intentionally and deliberately which was JUST explained as a reason to be cut off...so Yah made this ruling NOT man...later rulings by man determined when a carrying a burden was work related or not...and so it went...just like the understanding of the fire...to build and to extinguish...but yes I would rather listen to the pros and refs actually playing the game then snarky judgements from the passing peanut gallery...

You don’t need a fireplace since you have a modern fireplace called the heater. You ignite the heater and make excuses for your disobedience. You look for people who tickle your ears so you don’t have to obey so you can act like you do.

LOL...so eager you are for your everyday Sabbath you read it INTO everything even my post...I was referring to OVERCOMING everyday...not keeping Sabbath everyday...you seem to think that once SAVED you no longer sin and keep every day Holy...which is NOT what is taught in scripture but that we die daily and overcome daily and rest every seventh day NOT daily...

You are a mess.

ummm no one can work to earn salvation...as was made clear in the OT already

You speak nonsense. The people had to do the works of the law, which are the purification works of the law or they would be cut oof.

IF you repent DAILY for transgressions and even those you don’t even realize you did...as ALL have sinned and Paul still struggled in the flesh but with his mind to serve the Law...1 Cor 9:27

You have no idea what Paul is saying.

not taught...as we are to keep ourselves clean 2 Cor 7:1

You like when you say not taught.

you are being rediculous...you don’t eat anything you make? How bad a cook are you? LOL

It’s about not going by doctrines from men.

except when He says DO AS I DO...My Father’s will...then you scheme and devise your own “every day is Holy eat whatever” idolatry

You reject Jesus who says nothing that goes in makes a man unclean.

and EVERY day not just the seventh day Holy...no heat for you in winter I guess...

You are earthly but I am spiritual.

oh my...yes dont make covering of leaves but blood coverings He provided...but NOW that is spiritually understood and we are to be modestly dressed...I would hope you are...1 Timothy 2:9,10 note soundness of mind...

Revelation 16:15 "Look, I come like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake and remains clothed, so as not to go naked and be shamefully exposed."


Do you think "yikes" when Jesus says that? You say "yikes" to me about spiritual things and think you are safe?



Romans 13:14 Instead, put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh to arouse its desires.

Galatians 3:27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.

Ephesians 4:24 and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness.

Colossians 3:10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator.

Colossians 3:12 Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. 14And over all these put on love, which is the bond of perfect unity.


You see that? You are the naked one.

which you now claim is a ruling for EVERY DAY...as EVERY DAY is Holy and has become the Sabbath...

You are a hypocrite worldly person, and I am a Spiritual person.

why don’t you know that to know the Father is to be LIKE HIM do His Will keep His Commandments to abide in His Son is to LIVE AS HE DID...just like...

You are a hypocrite because you say you don’t obey what you preach.

 

[clefty]

There is no more earthly temple and no more earthly high priests and no more animal sacrifices.

but His calendar remains...and offerings/sacrifices of our lips lives and works...as it was Mercy rather than sacrifice...

Jesus says not to call anyone a rabbi.

You don’t obey God.

nope...He says not to let anyone call you a Rabbi...

There is a new law, and it doesn’t include hypocrisy, like what you practice.

the new law was taught and demonstrated BY HIM for you to keep...you don’t even try..make up your own...

Jesus is Greater than Moses.

Hebrews 3:3Jesus has been found worthy of greater honor than Moses, just as the builder of a house has greater honor than the house itself.


So obviously we don’t obey Moses then we obey Jesus!

Yup...He restored the Law...and established it...as Paul says we are to do...you teach another gospel another christ as one set apart day is “not for me”...makes you MAD

 

[clefty]

You keep making excuses for not obeying.

I fail Him His Way...you create another gospel another christ...as Him His Way is NOT for you...

You don’t need a fireplace since you have a modern fireplace called the heater. You ignite the heater and make excuses for your disobedience. You look for people who tickle your ears so you don’t have to obey so you can act like you do.

and you go cold EVERY day as EVERY day is Holy now to you...

You are a mess.

yup in need of Him His Way...Grace...Mercy...Judgement...not yours

You speak nonsense. The people had to do the works of the law, which are the purification works of the law or they would be cut oof.

OOF is right...did you read what you wrote? LOL...they had FAITH first...is WHY they WANTED to stay pure...He showed them how...you create another gospel another christ

You have no idea what Paul is saying.

it is really quite simple he says follow me as I follow Yahushua...and kept the Sabbath set apart...Paul could have told the crowding gentiles “come back tomorrow when we worship” but Paul did not...even baptized Europe’s first convert Lydia on the Sabbath...HalleluYah...not sure she ignited a fire housing them in her big house...

You like when you say not taught.

is why I keep talking to you...your “He cleanses me I dont need to wash”...

It’s about not going by doctrines from men.

But you do as “EVERY day is a Sabbath” is the daily bread you feed on NOT from Him...His Way...

You reject Jesus who says nothing that goes in makes a man unclean.

again and again you miss that He does NOT teach that...or Peter would have eaten unclean...or try to make Peter a hypocrite too?

You are earthly but I am spiritual.

you are out there...waaaay out but that does NOT make you spiritual as the Law is spiritual says Paul...and you do NOT do on earth as it is in Heaven...as if we gonna eat SWINE in heaven...LOL

Revelation 16:15 "Look, I come like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake and remains clothed, so as not to go naked and be shamefully exposed."


Do you think "yikes" when Jesus says that? You say "yikes" to me about spiritual things and think you are safe?



Romans 13:14 Instead, put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh to arouse its desires.

Galatians 3:27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.

Ephesians 4:24 and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness.

Colossians 3:10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator.

Colossians 3:12 Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. 14And over all these put on love, which is the bond of perfect unity.

You make your own clothes custom fit your another gospel another christ “EVERY day is Sabbath...eat cats rats bats and wombats”

You see that? You are the naked one.

suite yourself...as you do

You are a hypocrite worldly person, and I am a Spiritual person.

your fruit proves otherwise...you are not even following Him His Way...

You are a hypocrite because you say you don’t obey what you preach.

Failing (by your standard which you don’t apply to yourself either) at what I preach is not making me a hypocrite just as a baseball player striking out does NOT making him NOT a player...

A baseball player claiming to play baseball and then not even keeping the rules but making up his own “every base is home plate” is like you creating another gospel another christ...as the original is “NOT FOR ME” cuz you MAD

 

[God's Truth]

nope...He says not to let anyone call you a Rabbi...

You sin all over the place. Jesus says not to call anyone rabbi, and you do the very thing Jesus says not to do. You make up excuses why you won’t obey.

the new law was taught and demonstrated BY HIM for you to keep...you don’t even try..make up your own...

You called another man ‘rabbi’. You don’t love God. God says obeying Him is loving Him. You don't obey.

Yup...He restored the Law...and established it...as Paul says we are to do...you teach another gospel another christ as one set apart day is “not for me”...makes you MAD

Jesus made a new law.

 

[God's Truth]

I fail Him His Way...you create another gospel another christ...as Him His Way is NOT for you...

You do fail Him. That is why you don't make it, because one must be an overcomer, not a hypocrite.

OOF is right...did you read what you wrote? LOL...they had FAITH first...is WHY they WANTED to stay pure...He showed them how...you create another gospel another christ

You have a lot of typos. You prove you have an imagination, making up new meanings to things.

 

[clefty]

You sin all over the place. Jesus says not to call anyone rabbi, and you do the very thing Jesus says not to do. You make up excuses why you won’t obey.

https://biblehub.com/matthew/23-8.htm

You called another man ‘rabbi’. You don’t love God. God says obeying Him is loving Him. You don't obey.

you created another gospel and another christ...you are very creative

Jesus made a new law.

yes pray that the Sabbath be kept in future times of trouble...LOL

 

[clefty]

You do fail Him. That is why you don't make it, because one must be an overcomer, not a hypocrite.



You have a lot of typos. You prove you have an imagination, making up new meanings to things.

You reject the seventh day as Holy making all days holy...and claim nothing can make one unclean...

yours is another gospel from another christ...too MAD so sad...

 

[God's Truth]

https://biblehub.com/matthew/23-8.htm


you created another gospel and another christ...you are very creative

yes pray that the Sabbath be kept in future times of trouble...LOL

You call another man rabbi. That is defiance to God.

Jesus says pray it is not on the Sabbath. The gates would be closed and they would need to escape.