The coronavirus scam
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Arthur Brain
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Oh, another link to some article. Well that clears that up then.
Is atheistic fascism criminal? Should propagandists who lie in favor of atheistic fascism be jailed? Is it wrong to want to see people like Hitler, Stalin, and other hateful atheist fascists in jail? No, I don't think so. What about Americans on the public stage who advocate the destruction of God Bless America for wicked personal and political reasons? Those hateful deranged fascists are guilty of criminal sedition and treason, to put it correctly.
The China virus did originate in the Wuhan lab. Anyone denying that fact is either ignorant or lying or both.
Truth should be believed by everyone but, strangely, there are those on the left who will not believe the facts and evidence. That seems likely due to their allegiance to false propagandists and those promoting the lies.
What lacks facts and evidence is the leftist claim that the Wuhan lab was not responsible for creating the Covid virus.
Arthur Brain
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Well atheism shouldn't be illegal and I despise fascism regardless so that's kinda moot. Nor is there some intricate link between the two anyway. Where it comes to politics and politicians then there's plenty on either "side" who are guilty of pursuing personal and political gain so it's hardly left v right on the score.
Arthur Brain
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Supply the facts. If you have incontrovertible evidence to support your posit then bring it to the table and let's see it. I have no investment in denying the origins of Covid if that turns out to be the case. Otherwise, there's plenty of propaganda and rubbish that emanates from the far right. In spades in fact.
Arthur Brain
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Then once again, supply the proof. If you have it then I'm interested in seeing it.
I have plenty of evidence that covid originated in the Wuhan lab, but I grow weary of the ignorant who refuse to accept the facts and acknowledge the truth. The whole world is being damaged by liars and fools all over the world who simply will not tell the truth and will not accept irrefutable facts and truth.
NIH Cancels Funding for Bat Coronavirus Research Project
The abrupt termination comes after the research drew President Trump's attention for its ties to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
www.the-scientist.com
The grant, first awarded in fiscal year 2014 and most recently renewed last year, went to EcoHealth Alliance, which describes itself as “a global environmental health nonprofit organization dedicated to protecting wildlife and public health from the emergence of disease.” The aims of the funded project included characterizing coronaviruses present in bat populations in southern China and conducting surveillance to detect spillover events of such viruses to people. The project has resulted in 20 publications, most recently a March report on zoonotic risk factors in rural southern China.
See “Where Coronaviruses Come From”
EcoHealth Alliance’s partners on the project include researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, a BSL-4 facility that has for months been a focus of conspiracy theories that SARS-CoV-2 escaped or was released from a lab. On April 14, the The Washington Post published a column highlighting State Department cables about concerns regarding safety at the institute. (Experts tell NPR that, even in light of the cables, accidental escape of the virus from a lab remains a far less likely scenario than a jump from animals.)
Arthur Brain
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Erm, have you even read the article you linked to here or even your own post that you've highlighted? It goes entirely against your posit.I have plenty of evidence that covid originated in the Wuhan lab, but I grow weary of the ignorant who refuse to accept the facts and acknowledge the truth. The whole world is being damaged by liars and fools all over the world who simply will not tell the truth and will not accept irrefutable facts and truth.
NIH Cancels Funding for Bat Coronavirus Research Project
The abrupt termination comes after the research drew President Trump's attention for its ties to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
The grant, first awarded in fiscal year 2014 and most recently renewed last year, went to EcoHealth Alliance, which describes itself as “a global environmental health nonprofit organization dedicated to protecting wildlife and public health from the emergence of disease.” The aims of the funded project included characterizing coronaviruses present in bat populations in southern China and conducting surveillance to detect spillover events of such viruses to people. The project has resulted in 20 publications, most recently a March report on zoonotic risk factors in rural southern China.
See “Where Coronaviruses Come From”
EcoHealth Alliance’s partners on the project include researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, a BSL-4 facility that has for months been a focus of conspiracy theories that SARS-CoV-2 escaped or was released from a lab. On April 14, the The Washington Post published a column highlighting State Department cables about concerns regarding safety at the institute. (Experts tell NPR that, even in light of the cables, accidental escape of the virus from a lab remains a far less likely scenario than a jump from animals.)
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EcoHealth Alliance’s partners on the project include researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, a BSL-4 facility that has for months been a focus of conspiracy theories that SARS-CoV-2 escaped or was released from a lab. On April 14, the The Washington Post published a column highlighting State Department cables about concerns regarding safety at the institute. (Experts tell NPR that, even in light of the cables, accidental escape of the virus from a lab remains a far less likely scenario than a jump from animals.)
Then, in an April 17 White House coronavirus briefing, a reporter, whom Politico identifies as being from Newsmax, falsely stated in a question that “US intelligence is saying this week that the coronavirus likely came from a level 4 lab in Wuhan,” and that the NIH had awarded a $3.7 million grant to the Wuhan lab. “Why would the US give a grant like that to China?” she asked. “We will end that grant very quickly,” Trump said in his answer.
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Arthur Brain
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And another from your same link:
Agrant to a New York nonprofit aimed at detecting and preventing future outbreaks of coronaviruses from bats has been canceled by the National Institutes of Health, Politico reports, apparently at the direction of President Donald Trump because the research involved the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China. The virology institute has become a focal point for the idea that SARS-CoV-2 escaped from the laboratory and caused the current COVID-19 pandemic, a scenario experts say is not supported by evidence. Instead, virologists The Scientist has spoken to say the virus most likely jumped from infected animals to humans.
Agrant to a New York nonprofit aimed at detecting and preventing future outbreaks of coronaviruses from bats has been canceled by the National Institutes of Health, Politico reports, apparently at the direction of President Donald Trump because the research involved the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China. The virology institute has become a focal point for the idea that SARS-CoV-2 escaped from the laboratory and caused the current COVID-19 pandemic, a scenario experts say is not supported by evidence. Instead, virologists The Scientist has spoken to say the virus most likely jumped from infected animals to humans.
Do you question the accuracy of the claims or just want to point out that the claims have not been proven? Can you show evidence that the US was not investing in gain-of-function virus research in China? No, you cannot. There is more evidence to support the truth that the coronavirus was developed in the Wuhan lab.
Report: Obama Admin Funded China's Coronavirus Research, Gave Millions in Taxpayer Money to Wuhan Lab
Documents 'show the Wuhan Institute of Virology undertook coronavirus experiments on mammals captured more than 1,000 miles away in Yunnan,' a report says.
www.westernjournal.com
“In January 2018, the U.S. Embassy in Beijing took the unusual step of repeatedly sending U.S. science diplomats to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), which had in 2015 become China’s first laboratory to achieve the highest level of international bioresearch safety (known as BSL-4). WIV issued a news release in English about the last of these visits, which occurred on March 27, 2018. The U.S. delegation was led by Jamison Fouss, the consul general in Wuhan, and Rick Switzer, the embassy’s counselor of environment, science, technology and health. Last week, WIV erased that statement from its website, though it remains archived on the Internet.”
It’s not just the one article. From a Washington Post editorial, again from last week: “A more troubling explanation is that the coronavirus was inadvertently spread from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which had carried out research on bat coronaviruses and possessed a biosafety level 4 facility, the most secure for handling highly pathogenic and infectious diseases. It is not beyond possibility that an accident or spill occurred.”
It gets worse. Reports indicate a grant from the American government — courtesy of the Obama administration — may have helped fund this research.
Arthur Brain
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I question all sorts of things and don't swallow any given thing without due attention to source, agenda etc. I've asked you for proof that Covid was borne out of a lab in Wuhan and so far you haven't provided any irrefutable evidence for that being the case. Is it a possibility? Yes. Has it been proven to be so? No, and the evidence, credible at least suggests otherwise. Your own link as bolded above doesn't even support it.Do you question the accuracy of the claims or just want to point out that the claims have not been proven? Can you show evidence that the US was not investing in gain-of-function virus research in China? No, you cannot. There is more evidence to support the truth that the coronavirus was developed in the Wuhan lab.
Report: Obama Admin Funded China's Coronavirus Research, Gave Millions in Taxpayer Money to Wuhan Lab
Documents 'show the Wuhan Institute of Virology undertook coronavirus experiments on mammals captured more than 1,000 miles away in Yunnan,' a report says.
“In January 2018, the U.S. Embassy in Beijing took the unusual step of repeatedly sending U.S. science diplomats to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), which had in 2015 become China’s first laboratory to achieve the highest level of international bioresearch safety (known as BSL-4). WIV issued a news release in English about the last of these visits, which occurred on March 27, 2018. The U.S. delegation was led by Jamison Fouss, the consul general in Wuhan, and Rick Switzer, the embassy’s counselor of environment, science, technology and health. Last week, WIV erased that statement from its website, though it remains archived on the Internet.”
It’s not just the one article. From a Washington Post editorial, again from last week: “A more troubling explanation is that the coronavirus was inadvertently spread from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which had carried out research on bat coronaviruses and possessed a biosafety level 4 facility, the most secure for handling highly pathogenic and infectious diseases. It is not beyond possibility that an accident or spill occurred.”
It gets worse. Reports indicate a grant from the American government — courtesy of the Obama administration — may have helped fund this research.
I can accept that. You can believe whatever. I will believe what the facts and evidence I uncover best show me.
Arthur Brain
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If you had actual facts then I'd be interested in seeing them. So far, still waiting.
expos4ever
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Wow, is this really that difficult? We want EV-I-DENCE (and from a reasonably credible source).
ok doser
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Or you could just go away
And we want EV-I-DENCE that masks stop viruses.
Arthur Brain
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Shouldn't be that difficult to supply if the 'facts' are so readily available as posited...yet...