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Dinosaurs are fake and leads to atheism!

Clete

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It takes more faith to be an atheist than it would to believe in obvious fairy tales.
I agree! Accepting the existence of the Tooth Fairy would literally be easier than rejecting the existence of God.

The evidence for His existence is literally everywhere you look and the closer you look the more evidence you find! The existence of God is so in your face obvious that every single episode of any science program you've seen on the discovery channel (or any other cable channel actually) is filled to the brim with evidence of His existence. Every time anyone says the word "evolution", it means they just mentioned something that someone might think was intentionally designed. They just aired an episode of NOVA about butterflies and it was comical! Every single thing about a butterfly that could not possibly have come about by mindless, undirected processes of nature was presented as veritable proof of evolution! I had to turn it off because it was just too annoyingly blatant. I can't imagine what they had to say about what happens inside the chrysalis!

Being an atheist is like believing that I planted some shrubs in my back yard and that this happened without anyone touching it....


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Following on from Clete's garden analogy:

The Darwinist argument that "given enough time, any combination could arise" is fatally flawed because so-called randomness is actually generated by predictable processes. Every advance by an uninformed process toward what might be information will be terminated by the source adhering to the limits of its generating mechanism.

Information requires intelligence.

It's not only that the numbers are too large and the time too short, it is that it is impossible for information to arise from an unguided process.
 

Derf

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I agree! Accepting the existence of the Tooth Fairy would literally be easier than rejecting the existence of God.

The evidence for His existence is literally everywhere you look and the closer you look the more evidence you find! The existence of God is so in your face obvious that every single episode of any science program you've seen on the discovery channel (or any other cable channel actually) is filled to the brim with evidence of His existence. Every time anyone says the word "evolution", it means they just mentioned something that someone might think was intentionally designed. They just aired an episode of NOVA about butterflies and it was comical! Every single thing about a butterfly that could not possibly have come about by mindless, undirected processes of nature was presented as veritable proof of evolution! I had to turn it off because it was just too annoyingly blatant. I can't imagine what they had to say about what happens inside the chrysalis!

Being an atheist is like believing that I planted some shrubs in my back yard and that this happened without anyone touching it....


iu
However it happened, I’m impressed with your back yard!!
 

Clete

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So, you think they were purposely cultivated for this look. Perhaps. The elephant rock formations happened by chance alone.
Those orchids (yes plural) are clearly not naturally occurring and your rock formations only look vaguely like elephants from a specific angle and only because our brains are designed to recognize familiar shapes and faces (the whitish rock doesn't look to me like anything at all other than a whitish colored rock, by the way). In addition to that, my example didn't included just one bush that looked something like an elephant head from one particular angle but multiple animal figures that look like the animal from nearly any angle you want to look at them from as well as arches and circles and sharp corners, etc, etc, etc, all of which isn't one billionth as complex as what is happening inside any one of the peddles of the orchids you posted.

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Isn't God creative in designing not only flowers, but in designing a system that cannot arise via naturalistic means that can produce, consistently, these forms?
 

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Isn't God creative in designing not only flowers, but in designing a system that cannot arise via naturalistic means that can produce, consistently, these forms?
Yes, and God has certainly shown that He has a sense of humor in the process! I think He deserves more recognition for that:

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Derf

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The link is hilarious! Thanks for posting it. Too bad they ascribe purpose to a purposeless process and won't give glory to God.
 

Skeeter

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Right Diviner,

Why do both whales and dolphins have hip bones/ rod shaped pelvic bones?

My answer: They are evolutionary remnants from when their ancestors walked on land more than 40 million years ago.
 

Derf

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Right Diviner,

Why do both whales and dolphins have hip bones/ rod shaped pelvic bones?

My answer: They are evolutionary remnants from when their ancestors walked on land more than 40 million years ago.
Yes, just like Clete's garden! And the elephant rocks you posted! That's wonderful! I'm finally starting to understand. If something looks like something else, then it must have a common ancestor.
 

Skeeter

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Yes, just like Clete's garden! And the elephant rocks you posted! That's wonderful! I'm finally starting to understand. If something looks like something else, then it must have a common ancestor.
You got it- inadvertently. When the DNA looks similar as predicted by the morphology, then what do you say?
 

Skeeter

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I say, Where did "DNA" come from? Because wherever DNA comes from could just be where all DNA-based life comes from.
But, it was exciting when we corroborated earlier theories about dolphins being more related to hippopotamus than sharks via DNA similarity.
 
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