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You live in a fairy tale world.
Atheist Morality
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Your rejection of your Creator and your "evolution" fairy tale have completely warped your mind.
What about the blacksmith?
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Completely silly, like most of your world-view.
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God's law (and man's law) says, "thou shalt not steal". But "Bob" might choose to steal a loaf of bread to save the life of a starving child, while "Steve" might choose to steal a loaf of bread and then throw it into the dumpster just to show his stupid friends what a 'bad guy' he is.
I don't believe the "sin" was in the act of taking bread without paying for it. I think the "sin" is in the spiritual state that motivates the one doing it. And I believe that is what God judges, and will hold us accountable for. Not the act, but the spiritual motive.
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I think it's compelling nature IS it's voracity. As is the case with any mythological story we humans have developed and held for many centuries.
The problem I have with atheists and "atheist morality" is that so many atheists I encounter think that the physical facts are the only measure of voracity. When the physical facts are very often quite irrelevant and insignificant. Until we can build a time machine and return to the time and place of Jesus to determine for ourselves who and what he was, we are left with a story, AND WHAT THAT STORY MEANS TO US. That is it's whole essence. NOT it's factuality, but it's meaning, and significance. The revelation and the promise to us that it embodies. That's what gives it it's validity.
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If it's not factual, then your perceived "meaning of the story to you" is meaningless.
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You sound like an atheist.
Agreed. The Bible can be the source of valuable lessons. It is only a trouble when people attempt to be overly literal and claim that clear absolute imperatives can be derived from it.
The literal truth of a matter is irrelevant when evaluating parables. The larger truth is only symbolized by the narrative, and is the more important lesson. I think viewing a parable as one valid angle to consider is helpful, but pretending it provides absolute clarity on a matter backfires.
Perhaps emotional massaging as well as the ring of truth both account for the longevity and popularity of particular literature. When too much massaging going on, truth could suffer.
This blacksmith fairy-tail predates the Bible by thousands of years. It symbolizes humanity's need to balance knowledge with restraint.
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You sound like a Mormon.You sound like an atheist.
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Complete and utter nonsense.
There is plenty of evidence that He walked the earth two thousand years ago, then bled and died for your sins, and rose again on the third day.
Hypocrite. This itself, along with what I quoted above, is an extraordinary claim.
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In fact, there's an entire (literal and figurative) mountain of evidence for not only his existence, but also his death, burial, and resurrection.
This story can be traced back to a time when Western and Eastern Indo-European languages split, which was approximately 5,000 years ago, which means that it predates the Bible and even Greek myths.
Phylogenetic analyses suggests fairy tales are much older than thought
(Phys.org)—A pair of researchers has conducted a phylogenetic analysis on common fairy tales and has found that many of them appear to be much older than has been thought. In their paper published in Royal Society Open Science, Sara Graça da Silva, a social scientist/folklorist with New...
I know. You don't care about evidence.
Unbelieving rebels against God unwisely gamble on the vain hope they will never be judged for their sins. What foolishness!
Proverbs 15:32
He that refuseth instruction despiseth his own soul: but he that heareth reproof getteth understanding.
Proverbs 8:36
But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.
I agree that God metes out different punishments for different sins according to their degree of offense but God never condones sin. A thief who steals when he is hungry will not be as seriously punished as a thief who steals for a more wicked reason. But God says the thief who steals because he is hungry will still be punished if caught because stealing from others is wrong.
Proverbs 6:30-31
King James Version
30 Men do not despise a thief, if he steal to satisfy his soul when he is hungry;
31 But if he be found, he shall restore sevenfold; he shall give all the substance of his house.
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And right in the range of when the Flood happened. Curious that!
Curiouser and curiouser.Phylogenetic analyses suggests fairy tales are much older than thought
(Phys.org)—A pair of researchers has conducted a phylogenetic analysis on common fairy tales and has found that many of them appear to be much older than has been thought. In their paper published in Royal Society Open Science, Sara Graça da Silva, a social scientist/folklorist with New...phys.org
I know. You don't care about evidence.
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You love to lie about me.This story can be traced back to a time when Western and Eastern Indo-European languages split, which was approximately 5,000 years ago, which means that it predates the Bible and even Greek myths.
Phylogenetic analyses suggests fairy tales are much older than thought
(Phys.org)—A pair of researchers has conducted a phylogenetic analysis on common fairy tales and has found that many of them appear to be much older than has been thought. In their paper published in Royal Society Open Science, Sara Graça da Silva, a social scientist/folklorist with New...
I know. You don't care about evidence.
That writing is irrelevant.
Which of the fundamentals of Secular Humanism do you disagree with?