Colorado Springs Shooting Suspect Faces Murder, Hate Crime Charges

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You missed it, Skippy. The facts slipped right past you, and you ignored them. The fact is that 75% of all mass murders and 80% of all murders are committed with guns.
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:rolleyes: Yeah Yeah Yeah...Look...I'm not even going to address your stats as to what constitutes a mass murder or the murders included in your stats because maybe you should check how many instances of self-defense involve guns.

The fact of the matter is you are obviously of the impression that if guns were outlawed then mass murders will cease? And perhaps some of the particular types of gang violence involved in your stats will indeed be curtailed...Maybe.

But you seem to think people kill each other, or are more likely to, if they have guns...History says that's a rather clownish takeaway.
 
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:rolleyes: Yeah Yeah Yeah...Look...I'm not even going to address your stats as to what constitutes a mass murder or the murders included in your stats because maybe you should check how many instances of self-defense involve guns.

The fact of the matter is you are of the impression that if guns were outlawed then mass murders will cease? And perhaps some of the particular types of gang violence involved in your stats will indeed be curtailed...Maybe.

But you seem to think people kill each other or are more likely to if they have guns...History says that's a rather clownish takeaway.
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I only read him in reflection, but it's nice to see that my original assessment of him as a retarded troll is continually confirmed
 
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If you are referring to the box cutters used by the 9/11 hijackers, there was a quick and easy solution to that: Ban all box cutters on planes and reinforce cockpit doors.

The same logic applies to guns. Make guns inaccessible, just as with box cutters.
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Ah...Simple. You are so smart. Pity we didn't listen to you on Sept. 10th. :rolleyes:
 
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Generally, solutions to problems don't get put into effect until after problems have arisen.
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Can you tell me why neither of those two measures would have solved or prevented anything that day?...I know you can't because you think they would have, but try putting on your thinking cap.
 
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Can you tell me why neither of those two measures would have solved or prevented anything that day?...I know you can't because you think they would have, but try putting on your thinking cap.
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Since you already know, spill the beans.
 
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Since you already know, spill the beans.
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First. They didn't ban box cutters...They banned just about everything...Toenail clippers even. That's an important distinction to make because the reason box cutters weren't outlawed then is because the blades are so short. Prior to 911 you could have a pocket knife on a plane because nobody would try to hijack a plane with something like that. :)

:oops: Except they did...They did and were successful because prior to that time the conventional wisdom was for hostages to always give in to the terrorists demands. Not worth being hurt/killed...Sit tight and let the authorities handle it.

They could have had the aforementioned toenail clippers...If they put on a scary enough show the hostages involved would sit down and do as they were told. The locked cockpit door would have been quickly opened by the pilots because they are responsible for the passengers safety...Even from toenail clippers. Not one passenger shall have a drop of blood shed by toenail clippers...It was corporate policy. :unsure:

That changed when the passengers of Flight 93 realized what was going on and decided if they did not fight back they were dead anyway. Unfortunately, they realized it too late to save themselves.

Since that time we have strong doors which don't get opened and no boxcutters.
But that's not why there hasn't been a repeat. Boxcutters are a distraction. The door is an irrelevancy. If a guy got on a plane today with a box cutter and got into the cockpit the passengers would beat him to death. THAT is what changed....Not the equipment...Not the restrictions.
The TSA is a HUGE waste of money and nothing but harassments to travelers.

That one guy standing up and snatching Meal Team Six to the ground in the Colorado night club did more to stop the attack and derail anyone planning another than all of the laws you could ever pass.

If Meal Team Six couldn't have gotten a gun maybe he would have torched the place when it was full (doors are easy to chain)...Or drove a truck full of chlorine gas tanks into the place.

The consequences of banning cheap handguns were increased burglaries targeting firearms & every crook toting a nice reliable Glock rather than a cheapo Raven .25ACP.

;) Everything has it's consequences...
 
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:unsure: That is the trick isn't it?
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Eventually, MAGA is going to wake up and realize that their archenemy isn't actually Democrats. It's RINOs--the enemy within! They are the ones who committed 9/11, they are the ones who stole the 2020 election from Trump and gave it to Biden, and so on. And so I ask you: How can MAGAs "take the country back" if they can't take their own party back from the RINOs?
 
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