Republican Civil WAR: MAGAs vs. RINOs -- Who Will Win?

[annabenedetti]

Insurance companies make their obscene wealth by scaring people into fearing the unknown. I never feared a catastrophe. If catastrophe were to come then I would have to deal with it sensibly and if I could not afford the costs of healthcare then I would just have to do without. I would rather face catastrophes in such a scenario than waste money paying someone for years without any catastrophe.

I told an insurance salesman about 50 years ago that I figured out the insurance company was betting I would always pay them more money than they would be paying out for my care and I was going to gamble with them that I would always pay less for my own care than I would be paying them to promise care to care for me if needed.

If you'd rather die than pay for insurance that would save your life (should I assume you'd refuse government-subsidized care that hospitals are required to give to non-insured patients?) - would you have extended that willingness to die rather than pay for insurance to your children also? Would that be a catastrophe fearful enough?

 

[marke]

If you'd rather die than pay for insurance that would save your life (should I assume you'd refuse government-subsidized care that hospitals are required to give to non-insured patients?) - would you have extended that willingness to die rather than pay for insurance to your children also? Would that be a catastrophe fearful enough?

Nobody is going to die because they lack health insurance. That talking point is a lie.

 

[annabenedetti]

Nobody is going to die because they lack health insurance. That talking point is a lie.

Would you accept a government handout to pay for your care (or your children's care) if you refused to obtain health insurance for your family?

 

[marke]

Would you accept a government handout to pay for your care (or your children's care) if you refused to obtain health insurance for your family?

Yes, I would accept the socialist government payment for my children's care if there was no other option, but I do not think the working taxpayers should have to pay the medical expenses of the non-working, the illegal, or the stingy poor.

 

[User Name]

What's he gonna "correct"?

Right Divider needs to check his math. He always seems to divide wrongly when it comes to politics.

 

[Right Divider]

Right Divider needs to check his math. He always seems to divide wrongly when it comes to politics.

Another failed attempt at humor.

 

[annabenedetti]

Yes, I would accept the socialist government payment for my children's care if there was no other option, but I do not think the working taxpayers should have to pay the medical expenses of the non-working, the illegal, or the stingy poor.

But the working taxpayers should have to pay for your kids' care because you didn't want to provide for life-preserving care for your own children?

Wow. That's entitlement but based on what? Why would you deserve to have taxpayers pay for care you wouldn't pay for?

 

[Arthur Brain]

Yes, I would accept the socialist government payment for my children's care if there was no other option, but I do not think the working taxpayers should have to pay the medical expenses of the non-working, the illegal, or the stingy poor.

Well, there isn't a glaring double standard there at all then...

 

[marke]

But the working taxpayers should have to pay for your kids' care because you didn't want to provide for life-preserving care for your own children?

Wow. That's entitlement but based on what? Why would you deserve to have taxpayers pay for care you wouldn't pay for?

My kids are grown. My oldest son is 48 years old. My wife and I never had to depend on tax-payer-funded government care for any of the ten people in our family over 30 years. Socialism is for other people, not me.

 

[marke]

Well, there isn't a glaring double standard there at all then...

When poor people or illegals are giving free government healthcare paid for by heavily taxing middle-class workers the recipients of the 'free' care tend to go to the doctor far more often, driving the cost of universal care through the roof. According to SCOTUS, Obamacare is a tax on working Americans to pay for 'free care' for those who are not tax-paying Americans. When costs go up so do the taxes required to pay for those cost increases.

 

[Arthur Brain]

When poor people or illegals are giving free government healthcare paid for by heavily taxing middle-class workers the recipients of the 'free' care tend to go to the doctor far more often, driving the cost of universal care through the roof. According to SCOTUS, Obamacare is a tax on working Americans to pay for 'free care' for those who are not tax-paying Americans. When costs go up so do the taxes required to pay for those cost increases.

But, you'd still accept government aid when it suits you?

 

[Arthur Brain]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Fox News the first network to call Arizona for Biden in the stolen 2020 election? And didn't Trump threaten to sue Fox News? And didn't Trump call Fox News "the RINO network?" And aren't the RINOs the Trojan Horse army of the demon-rat Democrats? And aren't the Democrats controlled by Satan? Well, there you have it.

Well, let's not forget QaNuts original manifesto that claimed that El Trumpo was fighting a secret war against an elite cabaal of democrat, Satan worshiping paedophiles....

That's not unhinged at all, no sir...

 

[marke]

But, you'd still accept government aid when it suits you?

Yes. I pay taxes that are spent on all sorts of ungodly things like abortion that I do not approve of, so I do take advantage of government programs forced on the public that I would never have recommended being enacted.

 

[marke]

Well, let's not forget QaNuts original manifesto that claimed that El Trumpo was fighting a secret war against an elite cabaal of democrat, Satan worshiping paedophiles....

That's not unhinged at all, no sir...

There is nothing fake about leftist support of wickedness and depravity, whether it is abortion, sexual immorality, gender identity confusion, and perversion, open opposition to God and Christianity, soft on crime, hard on police, etc.

 

[annabenedetti]

My kids are grown. My oldest son is 48 years old. My wife and I never had to depend on tax-payer-funded government care for any of the ten people in our family over 30 years. Socialism is for other people, not me.

Socialism is for you marke, since you said you'd take government money to care for your children had they needed it when you left them uninsured for catastrophic care. The fact that you didn't need it doesn't make you a hero. You have an entitlement mentality, thinking you'd be a better candidate for government assistance than others you deem less 'worthy.'

 

[annabenedetti]

Well, there isn't a glaring double standard there at all then...

Right?

 

[marke]

Socialism is for you marke, since you said you'd take government money to care for your children had they needed it when you left them uninsured for catastrophic care. The fact that you didn't need it doesn't make you a hero. You have an entitlement mentality, thinking you'd be a better candidate for government assistance than others you deem less 'worthy.'

Karl Marx opposed individual property rights and the accumulation of wealth. Dozens of brutally oppressed nations have employed Marx's socialist delusions in their brutally oppressive governments.

I paid for social security for years and now I am getting a monthly check in fulfillment of government promises to pay those benefits to the elderly in exchange for having paid for the benefits in taxes every week for years in advance. But I do not favor big commie government cradle-to-grave socialism that robs people of property, money, freedoms, and rights.

 

[annabenedetti]

Karl Marx opposed individual property rights and the accumulation of wealth. Dozens of brutally oppressed nations have employed Marx's socialist delusions in their brutally oppressive governments.

I paid for social security for years and now I am getting a monthly check in fulfillment of government promises to pay those benefits to the elderly in exchange for having paid for the benefits in taxes every week for years in advance. But I do not favor big commie government cradle-to-grave socialism that robs people of property, money, freedoms, and rights.

You said: "Yes, I would accept the socialist government payment for my children's care if there was no other option, but I do not think the working taxpayers should have to pay the medical expenses of the non-working, the illegal, or the stingy poor."

You left your family intentionally uninsured, and assumed the government would take care of them if there was a catastrophe.

 

[Arthur Brain]

There is nothing fake about leftist support of wickedness and depravity, whether it is abortion, sexual immorality, gender identity confusion, and perversion, open opposition to God and Christianity, soft on crime, hard on police, etc.

You should have stopped at "There is nothing".

 

[Arthur Brain]

Yes. I pay taxes that are spent on all sorts of ungodly things like abortion that I do not approve of, so I do take advantage of government programs forced on the public that I would never have recommended being enacted.

So you would take advantage of a system that you decry?