Oh No Not Another Apocalypse Thread By Chrysostom

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a dog that didn't bark
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A history that doesn't connect the dots. Victorinus does not mention the seven churches. Eusebius does not associate the churches with the Apocalypse. They are looking at the original Apocalypse written by John the Baptist. It does not have the seven churches that were later added by John the Apostle. Really. 25
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A reason for this. There are three different Johns. John the Baptist who bare record. John the Apostle to the seven churches and John Chrysostom, who also am your brother,was in Ephesus at the beginning of the fifth century replacing seven corrupt bishops. John ate the little book and was asked to prophesy again and again.
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a dog that didn't bark

I love that story. The thing is there's got to be a murder, or some other catastrophic event of which within the context, a dog that didn't bark matters.

There's no such thing in this enterprise of yours. You're tilting at windmills. It doesn't matter that a dog didn't bark. There was no murder, there was no disaster (such that we need to find the perpetrato)r. "A dog didn't bark."—but we're not looking for any suspect, because there is no crime. A dog that didn't bark is awesome, but there's no crime to explain here. The dog didn't bark because—who cares? It doesn't matter the dog didn't bark—because there's no crime to explain, no mystery to solve. You need itt to demonstrate, to prove, that there's a real problem that you're solving. A dog not barking is great once you can show a crime's been committed.

I love that story, that mystery story. I love that. "A dog that didn't bark."

A Commentary Without The Churches -
A history that doesn't connect the dots. Victorinus does not mention the seven churches. Eusebius does not associate the churches with the Apocalypse. They are looking at the original Apocalypse written by John the Baptist. It does not have the seven churches that were later added by John the Apostle. Really. 25

You're interpreting Victorinus and Eusebius in a particular and partisan way, your view isn't even the majority view. You need to prove that it is the right view, not just a popular minority view. We already know it's minority, explain, prove, why we should think otherwise. Then we'll care about a dog that didn't bark. He didn't bark because there was no break-in. If there were a break-in, he would have barked. But there was no break-in. That's what you're saying. So seems to support the majority report, that there's nothing wrong with the book of Revelation, or our genealogical understanding of it. We differ in interpretation of Revelation, but not its original, Revelation is the Word of God.
 

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A reason for this. There are three different Johns. John the Baptist who bare record. John the Apostle to the seven churches and John Chrysostom, who also am your brother,was in Ephesus at the beginning of the fifth century replacing seven corrupt bishops. John ate the little book and was asked to prophesy again and again.
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A question not answered. Just ignore it and maybe it will go away. Like why was it written? Who has answered that question? It might lead to who wrote it. Like preparing the way for the Lamb, the First Coming?? None of this is understood and it won't be until the time is at hand for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. Thank you Daniel. Home 27 MENU
 

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Proof is not possible. You should know that. All I can do is show that it is a reasonable explanation for what doesn't make sense.

What doesn't make sense is you saying that Revelation as it is found in the Bible isn't the Word of God. That's the hidden premise this whole thread is about. Revelation is just the Word of God, that's the majority report. You saying "things don't make sense" is tantamount to claiming the majority report is wrong and instead we should entertain your minority report view. Burden's on you, to prove that the majority report is false, and that your preferred minority report is true.

"Proof is not possible" is not an answer. You must prove it, otherwise this thread is silliness and folly.
 

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What doesn't make sense is you saying that Revelation as it is found in the Bible isn't the Word of God.
I am not saying that. My problem is with how it is interpreted. My interpretation based on numbers and colors is more reliable because numbers and colors can't be misinterpreted like all the other words are.
 

Idolater

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I am not saying that. My problem is with how it is interpreted. My interpretation based on numbers and colors is more reliable because numbers and colors can't be misinterpreted like all the other words are.

Nope. You want to say that there are parts of Revelation that were added later on illicitly and that there is reason to doubt we can trust Revelation as fully Scripture and God's Word. This isn't about numbers and colors.
 
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