I never saw that before. Funny that the authors of Hebrews, James, 1 and 2 Peter, 1,2,3 John, and Revelation ALSO never used the word disciple. They are soooooo different from the 12.
Some of those books WERE written by the 12.
Those other books all come post the Fall of Israel (that includes Paul's epistles).
Doctrinal Category | Matthew through John, Early Acts, and Hebrews through Revelation | Paul's Epistles (Romans through Philemon) |
The Primary Message | The Gospel of the Kingdom: The announcement that the prophetic kingdom promised to David is at hand (Matthew 4:23, Matthew 24:14). | The Gospel of the Grace of God: The proclamation of salvation based entirely on the finished work of Christ on the cross (Acts 20:24, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4). |
The Target Audience | The Circumcision (Israel): Jesus limited his earthly ministry to Israel (Matthew 15:24), and the Apostles targeted the circumcision (Galatians 2:7-9). | The Uncircumcision (Gentiles / All Men): Paul was sent directly to the Gentiles as the apostle of the Gentiles (Romans 11:13, Galatians 2:7-9). |
The Basis of Justification | Faith and Works: Belief accompanied by physical actions, law-keeping, and enduring to the end (James 2:24, Matthew 24:13). | Faith Alone without Works: Complete justification by grace through faith, entirely apart from the deeds of the law (Romans 4:5, Ephesians 2:8-9). |
Water Baptism | Required for Remission: Necessary for the remission of sins and entering the kingdom program (Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38). | Not Part of the Commission: Paul explicitly states that Christ did not send him to baptize, but to preach the gospel (1 Corinthians 1:17). |
The Believing Body | The Nation of Israel: A kingdom of priests and a holy nation under the New Covenant (Hebrews 8:8-10, 1 Peter 2:9). | The Body of Christ: A new creation where the middle wall of partition is broken down, making Jew and Gentile equal (Ephesians 2:14-16, Colossians 3:11). |
The Divine Program | Prophecy: Information spoken by the mouth of holy prophets since the world began (Acts 3:21). | The Mystery: Information kept secret since the world began, revealed exclusively to and through Paul (Romans 16:25, Ephesians 3:1-9). |
None of which addresses the word "disciple(s)", so I still don't get your point.
I'm not at all anti-pauline. I just don't see how he would be preaching another gosprl from, say, Peter, say that all others preaching other gospels should be anathema, then rebuke those who distinguish between himself and Peter, saying "I am Pauline," or I am "Petrine." If it was ok for Peter to preach another gospel (which was not even good news!) why make a fuss about it?
Of course it does... the word is used primarily and predominantly during Christ's earthly ministry to Israel.
Completely irrelevant.
Of course you are. You completely deny the total uniqueness of Paul's ministry.
That is because you constantly ignore the CONTEXT of scripture.
He also rebuked those that said "I [am] of Christ". I'll bet that you will never understand that either.
No clue what you're talking about.
He explicitly defines his distinct target audience and office in Romans 11:13:
In Ephesians 3:1-3, he links this role to a specific administrative responsibility given to him for the nations:
Furthermore, Paul positions himself as the foundational architect for the current assembly of believers. In 1 Corinthians 3:10, he writes:
He also presents his conversion and ministry as the initial prototype for believers today, rather than a continuation of the prophetic program. In 1 Timothy 1:16, he declares:
These passages demonstrate that Paul viewed his ministry as a distinct stewardship committed directly to him by Jesus Christ, requiring separate recognition from the ministry baseline established in early Acts.
Not if you read the book of Acts--which shows it was used during Paul's ministry and referre to those to whom Paul preached. I know you will ignore what I'm saying here, but you've made a claim that is false--that the term somehow only applied to those involved in Christ's earthly ministry to Israel.
The references uses the word you say wasn't used by Paul, yet here it is used by Paul, referring to Christians who might be led astray. You have a weird sense of relevancy.
I don't deny Paul's ministry was new, but I do deny that he was the only apostle to partake in that ministry. Peter, for example, was ministering in some way to the same people Paul was.
But not a unique and different gospel!
That's pretty rich.
Eh? Are you saying they all were preaching the same gospel???? That Peter, Apollos, Paul and Christ all preached the same gospel? Wow! I guess we're getting somewhere!
Your reference is hardly helpful, since it merely asserts the same thing--that the Galatians are receiving a different gospel than some other people. But you don't explain why Peter was preaching to the Gentiles in Corinth such that they claimed him as the source,
Irrelevant, except that all of those four that were named were preaching something that went together with the others, and Paul tells us what it is:
Why bother about telling the Galatians not to follow after another gospel if the other gospel was ok to follow? If Peter's gospel was a different gospel, but still a gospel, then it should be ok for them to follow that gospel--it's good news, right? Some in Corinth were hearing from Peter (funny that Peter would be preaching to the same people Paul was preaching to), and claiming to be "of Peter", meaning they felt that the gospel they received from Peter was of better quality than Paul's.
Right, so Paul was saying they weren't good news, those gospels that weren't gospels. Those gospels that said there was another way to be saved. The one the Galatians were dealing with was that they could be saved by keeping the law. If every gospel from God is good news, and Paul was telling the Galatians to stay away from this other gospel, then it wasn't good news and it wasn't therefore a gospel from God. Thanks for putting the exclamation point on my post.
Apparently, English is perhaps your second or third language. I did NOT say that the term ONLY applied.... I said that it PRIMARILY and PREDOMINANTLY applied.
Nonsense.
I'll address a couple more things, even thought he's back on my ignore list. Perhaps some reasonable person will get something out of it.
Of course it's different. Anyone can see that... except those blinded by their own gross ignorance.
What a retarded person he is. I knew that he would not understand why Paul REBUKED those that said "I of Christ".
Get some mental health counseling.
Here is the explanation that the moron cannot understand, though it is simple, clear and unambiguous.
Because it was the WRONG gospel for THEM, you imbecile. That is why Paul says YOU (seven times) in the passage.
The gospels are different and NOT fully compatible with each other. Again, he's too stupid to understand simple things.
Careful what you ignore:
Perhaps...or Perhaps not. Here's what most people will get out of it:
Any reasonable person like to comment? Any reasonable person see a deficit in the character, not to mean the reason, of someone who gets so fired up when he can't coherently advocate for his point that he resorts to such?