Arthur Brain
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To be fair, I think it always was...
Trump's Iran "Deal"
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To be fair, I think it always was...
Arthur Brain
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Oh, and now Trump's comparing the war Iran war to "playing a banjo"...
"๐๐ก๐๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐ฎ๐๐ฅ ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐๐ฌ ๐๐จ๐ฐ๐ง, ๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐๐ก ๐ข๐ญ ๐๐ข๐ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ญ๐ญ๐ฅ๐ ๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐, ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ฒ ๐๐ข๐๐ง'๐ญ ๐๐๐ก๐๐ฏ๐ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ ๐ก๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ ๐จ ๐๐๐๐ค, ๐๐ง๐ ๐ง๐จ๐ฐ ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ฒ'๐ซ๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐๐ ๐๐ข๐ง. ๐๐จ๐ฎ ๐ค๐ง๐จ๐ฐ, ๐ข๐ญ'๐ฌ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ค๐ ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐ฒ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ง๐ฃ๐จ,"
Unsurprisingly, this led to several cutting reactions...
๐๐๐ญ'๐ฌ ๐๐๐๐ง ๐ฐ๐๐ญ๐๐ก๐๐ ๐จ๐ฏ๐๐ซ ๐๐,๐๐๐ ๐ญ๐ข๐ฆ๐๐ฌ ๐๐ฅ๐ซ๐๐๐๐ฒ, ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐๐จ๐ณ๐๐ง๐ฌ ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐ญ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐ฑ๐ฉ๐ซ๐๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ข๐ซ ๐ซ๐๐๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ. ๐๐๐ง๐ฒ ๐๐ฉ๐ฉ๐๐๐ซ๐๐ ๐ฎ๐ญ๐ญ๐๐ซ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฎ๐ง๐ง๐๐, ๐๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ฒ ๐ฌ๐๐๐ฆ๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ญ ๐ช๐ฎ๐ข๐ญ๐ "๐ญ๐ซ๐จ๐ฎ๐๐ฅ๐ข๐ง๐ ".
๐๐ง๐ ๐ฌ๐๐ข๐: "๐๐ฒ ๐ฎ๐ง๐๐ฅ๐ ๐ฐ๐๐ฌ ๐ ๐ฏ๐๐ซ๐ฒ ๐๐๐๐จ๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ข๐ฌ๐ก๐๐ ๐๐๐ง๐ฃ๐จ ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐ฒ๐๐ซ. ๐๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐ฒ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ง๐๐ฏ๐๐ซ ๐จ๐ง๐๐ ๐ซ๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐๐๐ ๐ฆ๐ ๐จ๐ ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐๐ข๐ง๐ ๐๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐๐ซ๐๐ง'๐ฌ ๐ฌ๐๐ก๐จ๐จ๐ฅ๐ฌ."
๐๐ง๐จ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ซ ๐๐๐๐๐: "๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐ค ๐ก๐ ๐ฃ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฅ๐๐๐ซ๐ง๐๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐๐๐ง๐ฃ๐จ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ซ๐ฒ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ญ ๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐๐๐๐๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ ๐ก๐ ๐ฌ๐จ๐ฎ๐ง๐๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ง๐."
๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ซ๐ ๐ซ๐๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐: "๐๐ ๐ฆ๐๐ค๐๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ก๐ฎ๐ฆ๐๐ง ๐ซ๐๐๐ ๐ฅ๐จ๐จ๐ค ๐ฅ๐ข๐ค๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ข๐ฅ๐๐ ๐๐ฑ๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐ข๐ฆ๐๐ง๐ญ."
๐๐๐๐ง๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐, ๐ ๐๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ญ๐ก ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐ญ๐๐: "๐๐ก๐๐ญ ๐๐๐ง๐ฃ๐จ ๐ก๐๐ฌ ๐ฅ๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐ ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ๐ข๐ญ๐๐ซ๐ฒ ๐๐๐๐ญ๐ก๐ฌ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ก๐ฎ๐ง๐๐ซ๐๐๐ฌ ๐ข๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐๐."
๐๐ง๐ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ๐๐: "๐๐'๐ฌ ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐ฒ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ง๐ฃ๐จ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ง๐จ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฐ๐๐ซ."
๐๐ง๐จ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ซ ๐๐ฅ๐ฌ๐จ ๐๐๐๐๐: "๐๐จ๐จ๐ค, ๐ ๐ก๐๐ฏ๐ ๐ก๐๐๐ซ๐ ๐ ๐ฅ๐จ๐ญ ๐จ๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ฉ๐ก๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ฌ๐ฆ๐ฌ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ ๐ฐ๐๐ซ, ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐๐ซ๐ญ๐๐, ๐ก๐๐ฏ๐ ๐ง๐จ ๐๐ฑ๐ข๐ญ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐๐ญ๐๐ ๐ฒ ๐๐จ๐ซ. ๐๐๐ฏ๐๐ซ ๐๐ฏ๐๐ซ ๐ก๐๐ฏ๐ ๐ ๐ก๐๐๐ซ๐ ๐ข๐ญ'๐ฌ '๐ฅ๐ข๐ค๐ ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐ฒ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ง๐ฃ๐จ'."
I doubt Trump could play the triangle, let alone a banjo...
"๐๐ก๐๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐ฎ๐๐ฅ ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐๐ฌ ๐๐จ๐ฐ๐ง, ๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐๐ก ๐ข๐ญ ๐๐ข๐ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ญ๐ญ๐ฅ๐ ๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐, ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ฒ ๐๐ข๐๐ง'๐ญ ๐๐๐ก๐๐ฏ๐ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ ๐ก๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ ๐จ ๐๐๐๐ค, ๐๐ง๐ ๐ง๐จ๐ฐ ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ฒ'๐ซ๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐ฏ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐๐ ๐๐ข๐ง. ๐๐จ๐ฎ ๐ค๐ง๐จ๐ฐ, ๐ข๐ญ'๐ฌ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ค๐ ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐ฒ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ง๐ฃ๐จ,"
Unsurprisingly, this led to several cutting reactions...
๐๐๐ญ'๐ฌ ๐๐๐๐ง ๐ฐ๐๐ญ๐๐ก๐๐ ๐จ๐ฏ๐๐ซ ๐๐,๐๐๐ ๐ญ๐ข๐ฆ๐๐ฌ ๐๐ฅ๐ซ๐๐๐๐ฒ, ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐๐จ๐ณ๐๐ง๐ฌ ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐ญ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐ฑ๐ฉ๐ซ๐๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ข๐ซ ๐ซ๐๐๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ. ๐๐๐ง๐ฒ ๐๐ฉ๐ฉ๐๐๐ซ๐๐ ๐ฎ๐ญ๐ญ๐๐ซ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฎ๐ง๐ง๐๐, ๐๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ฒ ๐ฌ๐๐๐ฆ๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ญ ๐ช๐ฎ๐ข๐ญ๐ "๐ญ๐ซ๐จ๐ฎ๐๐ฅ๐ข๐ง๐ ".
๐๐ง๐ ๐ฌ๐๐ข๐: "๐๐ฒ ๐ฎ๐ง๐๐ฅ๐ ๐ฐ๐๐ฌ ๐ ๐ฏ๐๐ซ๐ฒ ๐๐๐๐จ๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ข๐ฌ๐ก๐๐ ๐๐๐ง๐ฃ๐จ ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐ฒ๐๐ซ. ๐๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐ฒ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ง๐๐ฏ๐๐ซ ๐จ๐ง๐๐ ๐ซ๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐๐๐ ๐ฆ๐ ๐จ๐ ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐๐ข๐ง๐ ๐๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐๐ซ๐๐ง'๐ฌ ๐ฌ๐๐ก๐จ๐จ๐ฅ๐ฌ."
๐๐ง๐จ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ซ ๐๐๐๐๐: "๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐ค ๐ก๐ ๐ฃ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฅ๐๐๐ซ๐ง๐๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐๐๐ง๐ฃ๐จ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ซ๐ฒ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ญ ๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐๐๐๐๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ ๐ก๐ ๐ฌ๐จ๐ฎ๐ง๐๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ง๐."
๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ซ๐ ๐ซ๐๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐: "๐๐ ๐ฆ๐๐ค๐๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ก๐ฎ๐ฆ๐๐ง ๐ซ๐๐๐ ๐ฅ๐จ๐จ๐ค ๐ฅ๐ข๐ค๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ข๐ฅ๐๐ ๐๐ฑ๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐ข๐ฆ๐๐ง๐ญ."
๐๐๐๐ง๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐, ๐ ๐๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ญ๐ก ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐ญ๐๐: "๐๐ก๐๐ญ ๐๐๐ง๐ฃ๐จ ๐ก๐๐ฌ ๐ฅ๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐ ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ๐ข๐ญ๐๐ซ๐ฒ ๐๐๐๐ญ๐ก๐ฌ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ก๐ฎ๐ง๐๐ซ๐๐๐ฌ ๐ข๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐๐."
๐๐ง๐ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ๐๐: "๐๐'๐ฌ ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐ฒ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ง๐ฃ๐จ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ง๐จ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฐ๐๐ซ."
๐๐ง๐จ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ซ ๐๐ฅ๐ฌ๐จ ๐๐๐๐๐: "๐๐จ๐จ๐ค, ๐ ๐ก๐๐ฏ๐ ๐ก๐๐๐ซ๐ ๐ ๐ฅ๐จ๐ญ ๐จ๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ฉ๐ก๐๐ฆ๐ข๐ฌ๐ฆ๐ฌ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ ๐ฐ๐๐ซ, ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐๐ซ๐ญ๐๐, ๐ก๐๐ฏ๐ ๐ง๐จ ๐๐ฑ๐ข๐ญ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐๐ญ๐๐ ๐ฒ ๐๐จ๐ซ. ๐๐๐ฏ๐๐ซ ๐๐ฏ๐๐ซ ๐ก๐๐ฏ๐ ๐ ๐ก๐๐๐ซ๐ ๐ข๐ญ'๐ฌ '๐ฅ๐ข๐ค๐ ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐ฒ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ง๐ฃ๐จ'."
I doubt Trump could play the triangle, let alone a banjo...
Arthur Brain
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As disgusting as it is all too predictably pathetic from this risible administration. I wonder low long Trump and Hegseth would last on a boat before they whined about the essentials - big Macs and beer...
Naval families with loved ones deployed for months on US warships amid the Iran war have reacted with fury to Donald Trump and the defense secretary Pete Hegsethโs dismissal of their concerns about the extreme pressures and dire conditions they are enduring.
The Guardian has talked to three naval families who have been following the physical and mental stresses bearing down on their relatives with mounting alarm. The families, with loved ones on board the USS Abraham Lincoln and USS Tripoli, all spoke anonymously for fear of retribution against their active duty relatives.
The USS Abraham Lincoln, an aircraft carrier with more than 5,000 sailors and marines onboard, has been at sea for nearly nine months, having begun its deployment in November. There have been reports of multiple suicide attempts including jumping overboard.
When Trump was asked on Friday whether naval families were worried about conditions on board, he replied: โNo, theyโre not.โ He said that the Lincolnโs deployment, now in its ninth month, was โnot nearly long enoughโ.
Earlier, Hegseth also swatted away familiesโ concerns, saying that the reality onboard the Lincoln had been โcompletely misrepresentedโ.
www.theguardian.com
Naval families with loved ones deployed for months on US warships amid the Iran war have reacted with fury to Donald Trump and the defense secretary Pete Hegsethโs dismissal of their concerns about the extreme pressures and dire conditions they are enduring.
The Guardian has talked to three naval families who have been following the physical and mental stresses bearing down on their relatives with mounting alarm. The families, with loved ones on board the USS Abraham Lincoln and USS Tripoli, all spoke anonymously for fear of retribution against their active duty relatives.
The USS Abraham Lincoln, an aircraft carrier with more than 5,000 sailors and marines onboard, has been at sea for nearly nine months, having begun its deployment in November. There have been reports of multiple suicide attempts including jumping overboard.
When Trump was asked on Friday whether naval families were worried about conditions on board, he replied: โNo, theyโre not.โ He said that the Lincolnโs deployment, now in its ninth month, was โnot nearly long enoughโ.
Earlier, Hegseth also swatted away familiesโ concerns, saying that the reality onboard the Lincoln had been โcompletely misrepresentedโ.
Families of US sailors denounce Trump and Hegseth for โdismissing their experiences and calling them liarsโ
One US sailorโs mother asks: โMy son signed up to serve his country. But why isnโt his country serving him?โ
www.theguardian.com
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Probably about as long as Frodo and Sam on their journey to Mt. Doom.
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I wouldn't even get on a boat if it didn't have any Big Macs or beer on board.
Arthur Brain
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Well, I doubt there were such things as Big Macs in Tolkien's universe but don't kid yourself. Neither Trump or Hegseth would get on a ship like this in the first place and if it somehow did happen - they'd be using communications for a rescue instead of expecting people serving their country to endure the hardships faced by the actual sailors aboard.
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Thank you for solving this important mystery.
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Well THAT point went right over your head...
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What "point" were you trying to make exactly?
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Oh, maybe you can explain what "point" there was to JR's post?
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As disgusting as it is all too predictably pathetic from this risible administration. I wonder low long Trump and Hegseth would last on a boat before they whined about the essentials - big Macs and beer...
Naval families with loved ones deployed for months on US warships amid the Iran war have reacted with fury to Donald Trump and the defense secretary Pete Hegsethโs dismissal of their concerns about the extreme pressures and dire conditions they are enduring.
The Guardian has talked to three naval families who have been following the physical and mental stresses bearing down on their relatives with mounting alarm. The families, with loved ones on board the USS Abraham Lincoln and USS Tripoli, all spoke anonymously for fear of retribution against their active duty relatives.
The USS Abraham Lincoln, an aircraft carrier with more than 5,000 sailors and marines onboard, has been at sea for nearly nine months, having begun its deployment in November. There have been reports of multiple suicide attempts including jumping overboard.
When Trump was asked on Friday whether naval families were worried about conditions on board, he replied: โNo, theyโre not.โ He said that the Lincolnโs deployment, now in its ninth month, was โnot nearly long enoughโ.
Earlier, Hegseth also swatted away familiesโ concerns, saying that the reality onboard the Lincoln had been โcompletely misrepresentedโ.
Families of US sailors denounce Trump and Hegseth for โdismissing their experiences and calling them liarsโ
One US sailorโs mother asks: โMy son signed up to serve his country. But why isnโt his country serving him?โ
So much for supporting the troops.. when Bonespurs Trump was asked whether the deployment had gone too long, his answer was:
"No. Not nearly long enough."
On an optimistic note, though...
Massive Trump merchandise store goes out of business - because nobody is buying anything
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Explaining it won't make you understand it.
Use your brain. You'll figure it out eventually... Or not...
Arthur Brain
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Okay, don't. Meanwhile, Trump's approval drops yet further with many Republicans expecting this war to go on and on...
Aug. 17Trump's approval rating dipped to 33%, and his disapproval rating went up one point from earlier this month, to 64%, in the latest Reuters/Ipsos survey of 1,166 U.S. adults taken Aug. 14-17 (margin of error 3).
The poll found 80% of Americans, including 87% of Democrats and 71% of Republicans, think U.S. involvement in Iran "will go on for an extended period of time," while just 16% said it would likely end in a few weeks.
Trump Approval Rating Reaches Second-Term Low In Latest PollโAs 80% Think Iran War Will Drag On
Trump had a 33% approval rating in the latest poll released Monday.
Arthur Brain
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Exactly, he never has cared about the troops and he certainly doesn't now.
Not surprised the stores going out of business, these days even the most die hard Trump supporter has to think of groceries, power and gas too...
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Thank God nobody ever had to think about those things under any other administration.
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Has any other president referred to fallen soldiers as "suckers" or "losers"? The only thing Trump cares about is how to enact his next shameless grift.
Still, maybe he is starting to realize that when he attacked Iran he bit off a bit more than he can chew.
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annabenedetti
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He lies about everything. And his base will still come up with an excuse for his lack of concern by blaming BidenObamaClintonSorosLibrulsImmigrantsDEIPublicSchoolsAtheistsSocialSecurityMedicarePriusDriversClimateActivistsPeopleWithPurpleHair.
But - the base is shrinking a little. For a few of them out there, the honeymoon is finally over.
Arthur Brain
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Well, sure you would have, but I don't recall any other administration having vanity merchandise stores like this for gullible patrons to waste their dollars on junk, or gas prices being at an all time high, inflation rates through the roof, depleted oil reserves thanks to a war that was apparently won in March and is yet still going on escalating consumer prices as a result etc etc.
Are you happy with the state of this ongoing war?