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How To Get To Heaven When You Die
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Only after we have them.
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*resurrection
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Plus some faith.
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2 Peter 1:20-21 KJV
[20] knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. [21] For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
[20] knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. [21] For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
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What is your view on Grace Age Believers marrying in heaven? Just curious becaus some mod acts believe we will
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A scripture quote with no comment is vague and lacking context. Why are you quoting it?2 Peter 1:20-21 KJV
[20] knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. [21] For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
2 Peter 1:20-21 (KJV) - knowing this first, that no prophec | YouVersion
knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Hobible.com
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I don't think that there will be any literal marriages in heaven.
Name one mid-Acts dispensationalists that teaches we will marry in heaven.
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A well-known Mid-Acts Dispensationalist who taught that believers may experience marital relationships in heaven is J. C. O'Hair.
J. C. O'Hair’s view
O'Hair, one of the early leaders of Mid-Acts dispensationalism, suggested that the statement of Jesus in Gospel of Matthew 22:30 (“they neither marry nor are given in marriage”) applies specifically to Israel and the resurrection related to the kingdom program, not necessarily to the Body of Christ.
Because Mid-Acts theology distinguishes between Israel’s program and the Church (Body of Christ) revealed through Paul the Apostle, O'Hair argued that some statements made during Jesus’ earthly ministry may not directly define the destiny of the Church.
From that reasoning, he allowed the possibility that relationships like marriage could exist for members of the Body of Christ in heavenly places.
Important note
Even within Mid-Acts circles (teachers influenced by Cornelius R. Stam or Charles F. Baker), this idea is not widely taught. Most Mid-Acts teachers simply say Scripture does not clearly reveal whether marriage exists in heaven for the Body of Christ.
J. C. O'Hair’s view
O'Hair, one of the early leaders of Mid-Acts dispensationalism, suggested that the statement of Jesus in Gospel of Matthew 22:30 (“they neither marry nor are given in marriage”) applies specifically to Israel and the resurrection related to the kingdom program, not necessarily to the Body of Christ.
Because Mid-Acts theology distinguishes between Israel’s program and the Church (Body of Christ) revealed through Paul the Apostle, O'Hair argued that some statements made during Jesus’ earthly ministry may not directly define the destiny of the Church.
From that reasoning, he allowed the possibility that relationships like marriage could exist for members of the Body of Christ in heavenly places.
Important note
Even within Mid-Acts circles (teachers influenced by Cornelius R. Stam or Charles F. Baker), this idea is not widely taught. Most Mid-Acts teachers simply say Scripture does not clearly reveal whether marriage exists in heaven for the Body of Christ.
The problem is that marriage implies new human beings.
Ones who might rebel against God after He just got done kicking out everyone who ultimately rejected Him.
Revelation 21:4 specifically states there will be no more death.
Death is separation from God. It's the wages of sin. Sin is rebellion against God.
These things cause the other things mentioned in the verse.
Just based on that reasoning alone I strongly doubt that God will allow marriages in the new Heaven and new Earth.
Ones who might rebel against God after He just got done kicking out everyone who ultimately rejected Him.
Revelation 21:4 specifically states there will be no more death.
Death is separation from God. It's the wages of sin. Sin is rebellion against God.
These things cause the other things mentioned in the verse.
Just based on that reasoning alone I strongly doubt that God will allow marriages in the new Heaven and new Earth.
Leader? By what standard?
Who is it claiming that this person is a leader of Mid-Acts Dispensationalism?
From what I can tell he was something of a pioneer in regard the modern American Mid-Acts movement but he was never any sort of leader in the sense of an organized movement. What he taught wasn't even fully formed Mid-Acts Dispensationalism. His teaching helped lay the groundwork for what later became known as Mid-Acts Dispensationalism and anything he might have stated in regard to post resurrection marriage certainly cannot be construde as normative Mid-Acts teaching.
Where does O'Hair make this claim? Assuming, for the sake of argument that this claim is actually made, does O'Hair make an argument for this claim? If so, what is that argument?
All Mid-Acts Dispensationalists argue that "SOME STATEMENTS made during Jesus’ earthly ministry MAY not directly define the destiny of the Church."
That should not be taken to mean that EVERY STATEMENT made by Jesus does not apply to the Body of Christ, nor that we pick and choose at random which apply and which do not.
If that was his entire reasoning then he wasn't anyone's leader.
It is more likely that whatever it is you're quoting here has taken something he said out of context and is using it as a bludgeon, trying to imply that the entire system is based on such obviously vacuous reasoning.
I'd just about bet my house that this is YOUR motive for bringing it up. I find it funny, in a ludicrously stupid sort of manner, the degree to which people have to stretch the truth just to make what feels to them like something similar to a refutation of Mid-Acts Dispensationalism. They don't even bother to try to actually understand the doctrinal system, they just draw a caricature of it and make fun of the big nose they've drawn on it.
Yeah, because there is no basis for it whatsoever.
No, this is false. The scripture could not possibly be any clearer...
Jesus (God Himself in the flesh) said explicitly, "...in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven." (Matt. 22:30)
There is no indication that Jesus' comments were aimed at Israel. He was asked a general question about resurrection and gave a general answer. Nor is there any indication anywhere in the bible at all that the resurrection for the Body of Christ is any different than it is for believers from prior dispensations. Anyone suggesting that this concept of our "being like the angels of God" doesn't apply to those in the Body of Christ is speculating, at best. The motivation for such speculation is understandable. People love their spouses dearly and often can't imagine anything being considered a paradise if they are found there without their wife or husband. This, however, is short sighted. God is very much better than we imagine and we are very much worse than we think. What awaits us in Heaven is so far beyond what we can even think or image that I suspect that those who thought such things will laugh at their naivety when confronted with the splendorous truth that heaven will be.
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