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    The Lord Jesus Will Eventually Christianize The World.

    Thanks for reading JAG.
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    Isaiah 49:14-51:3 and John 7:1-8:59

    Amen Good points Love this topic. Why? I believe great symbolism was taking place at the Rock O Horeb. Each time Moses stood there prophesy was being given regarding the Messiah. See what you think of these: First time Moses struck the ROCK once representing how our Messiah would die in order...
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    The Lord Jesus Will Eventually Christianize The World.

    I agree. I agree. I wish you would read my post about Psalm 82 a second look. It is in Psalm 82 that I think an important trial took place. Created beings were sentence and a statement at the very end is just another affirmation that why you have written is true. That last statement: "Arise, O...
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    Psalm 82 another look

    Guess no one has a comment or question. So I'll be moving along.
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    Psalm 82 another look

    I know a number of TOL members don't take well to new perspectives, but I think any reader, who likes to momentarily think outside of the typical commentators' boxes will at least enjoy "my take" on Ps. 82. I know that when I saw the Chapter with this perspective it gave me greater insight on...
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    Jesus is God !

    You love labels more than scripture. What is so hard about this? There is only ONE Spiritual invisible God, but even he spoke of his own essence in a plural fashion - as a us and our. He is Spirit and He is LIFE therefore his WORD is alive. That is how the promised Messiah worked as God during...
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    LOL. I've unfollowed Right Divider...

    LOL. I've unfollowed Right Divider...
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    Oh I get three of you confused. Just getting to know y'all.

    Oh I get three of you confused. Just getting to know y'all.
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    Weren't you someone who was going to ignore me? LOL Can't stay away???

    Weren't you someone who was going to ignore me? LOL Can't stay away???
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    Jesus is God !

    LOL Clete wrote: "Salvation is not future, it is present. We are sealed (not "held") by the Holy Spirit which has been given to us as an earnest payment guaranteeing our safe deliverance to the Day of Redemption." What part of my sentence could you not comprehend? We said 99.9 % the same...
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    Jesus is God !

    I think I've discovered three trolls. Their only job is to deny deny deny and usually with very little scripture. Funny sometimes they agree with me on things and don't even see it. My opinion is: You have come just to argue... debate ... what ever you want to call it and you are not very good...
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    Jesus is God !

    You and I agree that both were God. You are incorrect. In just one example the truth is so clear. 74 men of Israel saw the LORD seated on a throne. They saw God and ate a meal in his presence and were not harmed. Just what do you think they saw Right Divider? Find this scripture, read the event...
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    Jesus is God !

    I'm a scriptural-ist. I believe Jesus and the Father are the same God. How you ask: Jesus was God because he was given the spirit of God without measure when he worked on earth. He was the invisible but audible eternal WORD of God before the world was created. He was God and was with God and was...
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    Jesus is God !

    Then why did Jesus say this? John 5:17 My Father worketh hitherto and I work. Which means God as the Messiah Son of God Emmanuel Lord Jesus worked in his day just as the Father worked in his day? But as both being God bearing God's created one presence they both worked in tandem/together to...
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    Jesus is God !

    I asked you for an explanation ... and what you gave me was not an answer. You just parroted a statement that I don't even know is true. {No other theologian ... has ever said what I said.] Seems you don't know how to a request... Yes, he existed always not being created as The WORD of God ...
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    Jesus is God !

    Yes! Praise my God and Savior. Isaiah 43:11: I [God the invisible Spirit] even I, am the LORD [God who appeared face to face to Moses] beside ME there is no Savior. IOW, God the Spirit is The LORD God/YHWH and is Emanuel the Savior. One God Clete, do you know that The ONE Spiritual God...
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    Jesus is God !

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    Is eternal suffering literal?

    I agree they need to know about it. It just seems that it was made for the angels. I believe hell is the place of suffering for humanity and that angels have not yet suffered any sort of hell. They haven't even gone to the PIT. The PIT was a place the legions of angels did not want to go at the...
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    Jesus is God !

    LOL. I only said I would try. LOL. You really get all stirred up. Well, a yes and no can come quickly. I guess you don't like the input I use to come up with my yes and no. You are really fussy. Do you want to try again for a yes or no? Maybe list your question and I'll try.
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    Jesus is God !

    I'll try to be succinct but if you have questions, ask or go to the chapters and read. The events and clues begin in Gen. 18: First clue: 1.) And The LORD appeared unto him [Abraham.] Abraham saw three super-natural men and he recognized the appearance of the LORD. Abraham only uses the name...
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