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Thanks, Caino. :) Ok, so I understand what's being said there and I do see how the statement from the UB could be taken differently. Therefore I should not have said that the Mercurial rotation about axis "flatly contradicts" the UB - for it does not. However, if the intent of the statement...

Yes - ignoring Stuu but taking up this point... The Mercurial rotation about its axis is very slow, (if I remember right it takes 59 days to complete one rotation!), but the observation flatly contradicts the UB here. To those who have, (at least to some extent), made an investment of faith in...

I'm sure those who insisted that the Sun orbited the Earth voiced the same sentiments regarding the calendar. The calendar works on the basis of the Sun going around the Earth and the idea that the Earth is the centre of the universe.... but it doesn't mean there is any ultimate reality to the...

Psychiatric medicine does NOT depend upon the absurd idea that consciousness is a function of brain chemistry. :rolleyes: It's all-or-nothing with people like you and Aimiel, isn't it? Brain chemistry has a profound impact upon the mind of one in embodiment, yes. Brain chemistry can be...

You DO believe this??!! Verily, I have not found such faith - no, not in all of Christendom!

From Psalm 137 - 4How shall we sing the LORD's song in a strange land? 5If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning. 6If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy. 7Remember, O LORD, the...

Oi! I like that guy.... good 'ole "Do"....and the rest of the Heaven's Gate people that I saw any video of. Seriously. Their teachings have much of value.

Agreed! :up: This is a very important point. Yes - absolutely! The fallen consciousness is all about mind control whereas the Ascended Host resolutely upholds the law of free will and never seeks mind-control. Indeed, Aimiel, it is for this reason that I personally don't like the UB term...

Those to whom Jesus was speaking evidently had some life in them and were unconsciously "eating the flesh of the Son of man" and "drinking His blood" already. Why else would Jesus say this? Can a being with no life respond to this statement? Can a being with no life do anything? So then, Jesus...

Amen to that.

I was quite struck by the fact that the quote from the UB doesn't actually say that Jesus didn't approve of the promiscuity of the public baths though - it only says he refused to go. Presumably the vibration of sexual promiscuity at Roman public baths was not an experience Jesus wanted, nor one...

The One in Whom YOU believe....... but your faith makes you more unsure of yourself - and therefore it must make you more unsure of your beliefs. Aimiel, you appear to be a house divided against itself. Perhaps you should spend more time really contemplating what Jesus says in the Gospels and...

Well, it depends upon the level of the receiving consciousness. There are many aspects of the various old testament revelations that are indeed obsolete due to the fact that the collective consciousness of this planet has risen considerably since the times of those revelations. The same can be...

Hi Paul :) Which does indicate that the UB is now out-of-date. One thing that I find perplexing about the UB structure is how self-referential it is in terms of its overarching paradigm. That paradigm may well reflect the consciousness of the 1930s - 1950s more than it does the consciousness...