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    ECT 2P2P-speak vs the NT

    Mr 2P2P Champion, also known as Mr Huh? writes: No, the LORD Jesus came to confirm the promises made to the fathers, and those were the fathers of Israel. He was a minister of the circumcision. This guy hates grammar, hates explaining why translations are lies, and many other things, but...
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    ECT Land promise without Judaism operating?

    Would 2P2P guys please call in on whether they mean there is to be a 'land promise' fulfilled without Judaism operating? There is no such thing, but they often believe in things that can't exist, so I wondered.
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    Gal 4 explodes 2P2P again (boring)

    There are two covenants in the picture, and nothing else needs to be mentioned about them other than what is going in the analogy. That is, the 'land' promise does not even matter in the old covenant of bondage. What matters is that there is bondage to the slavery of Judaism in one, and...
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    ECT Prager's Aside on Comings of Christ Reveals Judaism

    On yesterday's broadcast, the talk show host and rabbi Prager made an aside about the comings of Christ/Messiah. It was only as an analogy about some other item in the news, but he said, 'if _____ was true, it would the 2nd coming for Christians--or the 1st for us in Judaism.' It is easy to...
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    ECT To 'come into Israel'

    Yes, 'into Israel' is the right idea. That is the shape of history until the 2nd coming. Gentiles who become believers are 'coming into Israel'. All of this Israel will be justified from its sins (saved). It will be 'in this manner' (by faith, and determined by faith, not by ethnicity, race...
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    ECT The "Sending" of Jesus to Israel

    I think I have found the last 'velcro' hook that has people thinking there is something to 2P2P. It is in this quote, and then I respond: Act 3:19 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out, Act 3:20 that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and...
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    ECT And you thought "spiritual" was wacky! Wait til you read this thread.

    Watch what happens to 'spiritual' in this thread! http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?122890-YHWH-shall-regather-His-people-A-SECOND-TIME-(first-time-was-539-BC-from-Babylon) Funny how literal 'literalism' actually is!
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    Patriot Day deals its own fatal blow to Islam

    The older Tsaernov brother explains Sep. 11 to his Chinese student hostage, and his younger brother: "The US government did it. Do you know why? So people would not like real Muslims." Real Muslims. Hmmm. Thank you real Muslim older Tsaernov brother, with plans for the carnage of real...
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    An appeal to 2P2Ps

    My main appeal to 2P2P is to stop imagining things. 1, when reading Rom 11, stop imagining a Davidic theocracy re-established on earth. The passage is not about that; it is never lurking behind any keywords etc. Ch 11 wants Jewish people to be part of the Christian mission. The quote of...
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    ECT The official AAL interp of the new covenant

    The apostles were unified on the new covenant: it was put into effect in Christ, it is the blessing of forgiveness of sins now, and it makes a substantial impact on a person's willingness to live rightly, which the law was powerless to do. You would normally get this from the last supper...
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    ECT 2P2P forgot to tell us there were 2 gospels in Gal 3:8

    While the text is clear about how the gospel was explained to Abraham and can be captured in the 'all nations will be blessed through your Seed', we have to mention that 2P2P sees 2 gospels here, just like everywhere that the gospel is mentioned in the AAL. Don't you see it? There's actually...
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    ECT Messianic R. Jeslow ID's the other 'gospel' in Galatians

    This pastor correctly identified the Judaizer gospel in Galatians today on an NRB TV program. It is when Judaizers add something(s) to Christ, and tell you that you are not really a Christian until you have done it. Question: what EXACTLY did the other gospel that 2P2P people claim to see...
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    ECT 2P2P's ridiculous anti-semitic blindspot

    The 2P2P boys were so proud: they thought they had nailed the wide view of the Bible by pointing out that the 'millenium' so-called would give back to Israel 1000 years, which were the 'years the locust had devoured' or some such esoteric understanding of an OT prophecy not ever used by the...
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    The Methodology mistake of the 2P2P pounding on one 'Judah/Israel' verse.

    The real mistake of 2P2P about this is that they did not do Acts 13:32-33 this way, and about 500 other verses. Everything, the whole world, stops at Heb 8:8 as strictly as they see it, but not any others. this is called 'warping' the Bible. They still think it is 'Bible' but now 'Bible'...
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    Other Ways the NT is blocked here

    While there are belief systems like 2P2P which treat the OT as though the NT never existed nor quoted it, another way of blocking the NT is simply to read what some Jewish people say/write about the NT. For ex., one here at TOL, calls most of the NT use of the Tanach "abuse." Still another...
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    ECT Seeking list of Hebrews verses from MADs/D'ists that are allowed for Christians

    Please post your list soon. I love the book, but found out only a few verses are for me/us Christians. Dang. Hope you can produce it soon.
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    ECT The Gospel and Daniel's 4 visions

    BIBLICAL COHERENCE OF DANIEL’S VISIONS AND NEW TESTAMENT MATERIALS Based on R. Brinsmead, Australian Forum, 1975 Ch theme NT materials 2: The Kingdom of God Gospels except John 7: The Righteousness of God Romans 9: The Day of Atonement Hebrews 12: Eternal Life Gospel of...
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    DAYSTAR movie of the week discussion thread

    Today at 7pm EST. Please join in discussing any aspect from theology to photography about it. I'm a candidate to start mentoring in script development at a Christian college and hope to use any method to increase the quality of Christian productions. Last week was WELCOME TO INSPIRATION which...
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    ECT 'Euangelizo' is not even a grammatical question in Galatians--or anywhere.

    The case for one gospel is actually simpler than diagramming the whole sentence of Gal 2 about a gospel for circs and uncircs. Find a good lexicon on 'euangelizo'. To make a great announcement. There are a few times when another object is provided, for ex., to announce the birth of a child...
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    The grammar of Gal 2 and the folly of 2P2P

    Check any commentary where the person knows Greek grammar, and you'll see the error here. The subject is Paul/Peter. The verb is to preach the gospel. There is only one. The direct object is BUILT IN. The indirect object is the two targets. An indirect object for 'preach' cannot be the content...
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