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I don't want to get bored and tiresome... Obviously no Trinitarian is going to try and explain the words of Jesus in Rev. 3:12, cause they don't even want to think about a heaven where Jesus is not GOD. While we're still waiting, let's try something different. According to John 20:17, who is...

More than a day ... and still waiting. Sad.

I guess some here consider Rev. 3.12 as disposable, cause he was "just talking as man". Better rip everything Jesus said out of your Bibles, BUT of course, don't call yourselves "Christians" anymore.

Thanks for the quote. So: is Jesus God in the heavenly temple? WHO is God in the heavenly temple? Is He not the same God in the temple of Jerusalem?

No one, as I thought. What a disappointment! :rolleyes:

:sleep: Anyone willing to talk about Rev. 3:12?

Wrong, Mr Idolater. God is not man ... and men are not gods.

Thomas's expression is only an expression of astonishment, not a declaration of a Christian dogma. If you had been there, you would know perfectly well that Thomas did not consider Jesus to be his God, although he certainly understood that after he was resurrected he was a divine being. Jesus...

Is the exchange that occurs between Thomas and the risen Jesus about some Deity of Jesus, or about the fact that Jesus has actually been brought back to life?

Have you consider Rev. 20? This topic is about it.

Well, you do not have a specific verse where we read an angel is not an elephant, do you?

Thanks, Clete, for answering. Maybe I did not explain myself very well. I do not have to believe in what you are talking about to understand what the Bible says about the eternal life on earth for millions of people. I like to concentrate in just a few passages that talk exactly about what I am...

Some events related to the future Millennium, which we are referred to in Rev. 20: 1) The first resurrection: which occurs exclusively to the brothers of Christ who are taken to heaven. This resurrection that has been going on for some time, ends sometime before Armageddon before the beginning...

Jesus called his God "Lord of heaven and earth" here: Luke 10:21 (...) "I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have carefully hidden these things from wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. Yes, O Father, because this is the way you...

I am not a Thomasian, I am a Christian. Jesus never told he was God or equal to God. But more than that, he taught exactly the opposite many times ... Somehow some have come to the conclusion that the things that Jesus taught and that show that he is not God, are disposable, because he was only...

Did you know that Revelation chapter 20 reveals to us many secrets about the future? For example, it tells us that after the rest of those who are going to be kings and priests with Christ are taken from earth to heaven, the people who are going to be living on earth are going to pass a test...

You are talking about another Jesus, who is not the one I learn from in the Bible. Jesus, the one in the Scriptures, never said he was God or equal to God. If Jesus never said such things, where did they come from?

:sleep: Waiting for somebody to take seriously what Jesus said in Rev. 3:12 ; for someone who is willing to answer my questions in the post #4220 ... preferably an educated person.

Welcome to my ignore list. Good bye.

Well, I am not writing here for you, but for others readers of the topic. You can go and sleep if you want to. Anyway, you don't seem to take seriously what Jesus taught. Actually, it would be much better if you leave and sent someone to the forum who is better prepared than you to answer my...