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Good article, Clete. I have a question. Why do you feel that a glorified body is of more consequence than a mortal body? It seems His glorification was a partial changing back to what He was before His incarnation. In that sense, I feel like His incarnation to a mortal body was the bigger change...

Lack of reproduction by no means eliminates the possibility of a being being a sexual being (no typo there). Not just his kingdom, but his family, too: "you are of your FATHER, the devil." But that suggests that they were either born into his family, or that they became a part of his family...

As do I, about what you wrote here, at least in large part. My point from before was that mental (non-physical) fornication, including the homosexual kind, is a type of adultery where a spouse of yours or the other party's exists, and even when there's no adultery, is a way of not loving your...

Kids can learn from making their own mistakes, providing 1) that they face the appropriate consequences for their mistakes, and 2) that they live through the experience. Our society, most importantly for this conversation, and possibly for the purpose of assuring #2 (or even anything close to...

Mother of all the living makes as much sense to mean all of the living to come, especially in light of the other info in the text. Remember that a few verses earlier, she was called THE woman, and he was called THE man. So it seems there were no other humans in the garden. Even a baby is called...

Now you'll need to define "chastity", and explain how an inanimate, non-concrete thing can be offended. For instance, love (as an entity) cannot be offended (because it isn't an entity), but a person who loves can be. "Chastity" isn't an entity, and therefore cannot be offended, but a person who...

I have a hard time doing so without including sexual acts in the definition. That's why I asked. And if sexual acts are involved, then it's not celibacy. If sexual acts are not involved, then it's not homosexuality, imo. Who is Chastity, and why is she involved in this conversation?;) But...

Maybe it's not the number six, but "stix", also "styx", like the river of death.

Are you saying that someone can love another person sexually without having sex? That's odd. Or is it that a person can lust after someone without committing fornication? I don't think Jesus would agree with that.

It could be. But couldn't it also be that the heavens and the earth did not exist before God said, "Let there be light"? I have, but you don't agree. I get that, but it's not the same as NOT explaining why. not only not named again, but the same exact name is used, with the determinative...

I'm not sure what they mean, but if God made a body out of clay and breathed life into it, John Smith would have been created directly. If he were born to Momma Smith, it's indirectly. Much like all the houses man builds were not created by God directly, but the materials came, eventually, from...

I think you have to keep the whole context for each group. The angels "left their first estate" or as your version states "left their own abode." This is not immediately the same as "sexual immorality" and "strange flesh". So if the angels' first estate were to have sex with, say, other angels...

Regarding a man or men being called a son of God, I know of 2 instances prior to our adoption as sons and fellow heirs with the begotten son of God, both in the New Testament. Luke 3:38 KJV — Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of...

No it wouldn't. It would just mean you have to translate from the spoken Greek instead of the written. ;)

I suppose that it could be a connection between blood and water...and wine? There seem too many metaphors to try to mix them all together. But yes, life from the dead is a great miracle bought by Jesus' blood.

I can stop breathing for a whole minute. Just mostly dead, I guess. Probably you mean when the breath leaves for the last time. But that still makes it somewhat subjective. But I agree with what I think you're trying to say

There's a special theology club? Is that like short bus theology?

"Mortal death" means "deathly death". I don't understand why both terms are needed. "First" is an interesting adjective to use on "deathly death". It makes it seem like there's a "second" deathly death expected. But God only told Adam he would "surely die" (or "dying he would die", which might...

Ok, then how does that change what we understand about scripture and our place in the world? And welcome to TOL, TIOTM.

I think you are on to something, but it isn't the bodies Satan is most concerned about, rather it is mankind itself. A few verses later God tells Adam, "You are dust." So Satan became the thing that wants to kill all of mankind AND prevent them from being resurrected. That last part fits with...