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Stars are their own light as well. Shooting The Stars "Procyon part 2" with Nikon Coolpix P900 --Dave

Nikon Coolpix P900 --Dave

The Bible is clear, the moon is it's own light, "16 And God made the two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; he made the stars also." --Dave

The Bible is very clear, neither man nor the universe evolved over time. The moon is it's own light. --Dave

The ancient world and the Bible agree here, the moon is it's own light. The stars are also their own light. --Dave

Genesis 1: 14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth.” And it was so. 16 And...

"You can observe it or measure it", I agree. High powered cameras are showing us there is no curve. Flying high in the sky we are not seeing any rotation of the earth. We see flat straight horizons from the ground and the sky. The case for a spinning globe is not in plain sight, the flat...

Sorry, you are historically and logically incorrect. Your simplistic view does not answer larger questions nor address the interpretations of what we see and don't see, curvature vs perspective, movement vs non movement, NASA's countless contradicts, video evidence for a flat stationary earth...

The importance of Cosmology All of the three basic cosmologies are integrated into a theology/philosophy. 1. Flat earth model: The Bible and all Ancient cosmologies share a variation of flat earth covered by a dome with sun, moon, and stars circling it. They also shared a belief in a...

I have been going over my thread, from the beginning, this morning in order to review all the arguments made. I had to laugh at one of the first comments I received back in 12/18/16. From Chair: "The site is so overloaded with nut-cases that I can't tell if the OP is meant to be taken...

The "unseen" hand of "Gravity", keeping all movement of planets in controlled, orderly orbits, without deviation, since the origin of our galaxy. While at the same time moving the whole galaxy through space with no trend toward chaos. I don't think so. :rolleyes: --Dave

The Biblical cosmology is the most important one. --Dave

Explain then why the sun is not stationary in relation to the planets that move around it. --Dave

I agree with that, let's keep the baby. But I fear the flat earth baby may not be the one you want to keep. :baby: --Dave

Stationary means not moving. It's illogical to say "everything is moving" in relationship to everything else that is moving. There are "some" things that are moving in relation to some other things that are also moving. But, movement is the opposite of not moving--stationary. Is the sun...

Yes, I absolutely will do that. --Dave

Something in this universe must be stationary. Sent from my iPhone using TOL

The only way to define movement is to affirm it's antithesis which is that which is not moving, stationary. Sent from my iPhone using TOL

They are not all rational . But don't let me keep you here any longer. You can keep your relativity, just don't try to pass it off as rational in my company. --Dave Sent from my iPhone using TOL

The history of cosmology The first cosmology in history is a flat stationary earth covered by a dome with the sun, moon, and stars moving above or at the top of the dome. The next cosmology in history is a stationary globe earth at the center of the universe with the sun, moon, and...