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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Do you think Mark and Luke were telling a different good news? I agree that it’s right to acknowledge that Peter and Paul used different words to tell the same story, just like Mark and Luke did—and for the same reason, that they had different audiences. But both Mark and Luke were telling the...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Peter also said Acts 15:11 (KJV) But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they. I’m not understanding why, when I point out that Paul said we should fear God and walk righteously, you try to point out that Peter didn’t say that, then say that he...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Any of the three uses still require consistency. If you say “the gospels” it’s clear you’re talking about more than one. If you say “the gospel”, it’s equally clear you’re talking about only one. No scripture ever says “the gospels” as far as I know, but Gal 2:7 definitely uses a single instance...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    No—it has to be in a single sentence with only a single instance of “the good news”. But nice try.
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    I don’t usually copy stuff like that just for fun, but I’m hoping to learn. Just so you know, “the” is a definite article. Used before singular or plural nouns and noun phrases that denote particular, specified persons or things. Used before a noun, and generally stressed, to emphasize one...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Yes, I agree— though I would put that point of conscious fearlessness after the resurrection.
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    Who’s it to?

    I’d like to talk about the target audience of the non-Pauline epistles, if anyone’s interested. It seems to be fairly high on the response list for MADs, so I hope it’s ok to post here. I’m not trying to dissuade anyone from the MAD point of view, at least not intentionally in this thread...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Can you explain?
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    I’m not sure I understand your question.
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    My thought is that when you’re dead, you aren’t doing any looking or anticipating at all.
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Not a Greek scholar—that’s why I include multiple translations. I have no idea even how to form an opinion on which one is better. But I don’t have to, since the word is only present once in each. But you know the truth, and it bothers you for some reason. Your very words betray you: “the...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Compared to I, nor @Arial, haven’t said the translations are contradicting, but it seems you are saying so. Yet your own citation, your choice of translation, agrees with me:
  13. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Us people? Here’s the Greek, in 4 different versions: Galatians 2:7 (TR) ἀλλὰ τοὐναντίον ἰδόντες ὅτι πεπίστευμαι τὸ εὐαγγέλιον τῆς ἀκροβυστίας καθὼς Πέτρος τῆς περιτομῆς Galatians 2:7 (MGNT) ἀλλὰ τοὐναντίον ἰδόντες ὅτι πεπίστευμαι τὸ εὐαγγέλιον τῆς ἀκροβυστίας καθὼς Πέτρος τῆς περιτομῆς...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    You do realize that the word “gospel” is only present in the sentence once? Galatians 2:7 (CSB) On the contrary, they saw that I had been entrusted with the gospel for the uncircumcised, just as Peter was for the circumcised, Thus, with this being one of the more often quoted verses in this...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    As opposed to “I’m ignorant and I want to stay that way”?
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Maybe you read it backwards. I never said it’s “because”, but rather “because of” that we work righteousness. Here’s Paul’s take on it: 2 Corinthians 5:11 (CSB) Therefore, since we know the fear of the Lord, we try to persuade people. What we are is plain to God, and I hope it is also plain to...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    That's how we know we are accepted. And yes, we must fear God and work righteousness, as Paul affirmed—it’s what our Lord wants, so we, if we walk in His spirit, will want that, too.
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    Tasted Death for every Man !

    "Because I just want to preach at people and hear them say amen."
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    "waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body." In other words, our adoption as fellow heirs is not complete until our body is redeemed.
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Huh! Who would have thought! I guess you're starting to see why the other conversation is important, after all. And yet, Jesus resurrected in the flesh, and we are alive "in Him", so we then know we won't stay dead. It used to be comforting to know that we and our loved ones would be...
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