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  1. Derf

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I hope you don't think I was advocating treating people terribly. If so, would you let me know where I suggested such, so I can correct it? If not, why do you bring it up in a discussion of what science and knowledge are? Red herring, perhaps? Which part of the bible are you suggesting we not...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I'm sorry to hear you say this. "Science" essentially means "knowledge". And if the bible is not a book to gain "knowledge", I can't imagine of what use it is. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge. (Prov 1:7) The most important thing Scientists (knowledge seekers) can do to...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Yes, one thought. We are by nature short-sighted, meaning we think about what's happening to us right now as the most important thing going on. Thus we naturally think we are the center of the universe. As far as I can tell, nothing in God's word requires such a thought--when God made the sun...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I'll let others decide who's making an idiot of himself. Distrust of NASA is certainly on the table. They use a lot of tax dollars, and not all of it comes back to us in useful product. But don't throw the baby out with the bath water. NASA didn't invent the spherical earth, as your own flat...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    That video is fake. You can tell because it shows a curved earth and stars.:chuckle:
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Do you not even read your own links? It said he sailed 10,000 miles in "uncharted" waters before he wintered in New Zealand. He spent the winter sailing around to the various south pacific islands. He sailed south again and came back to New Zealand. And it was more than 14,000 miles from England...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I did this calculation wrong. The coastline of Antarctica would only be 70,000 miles long. Thus that would expand the width of Australia to 6 inches or so. Sorry about the confusion.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Yep, you're right. On both things :)
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    That's rich, Dave. This is from https://www.universetoday.com/15055/diameter-of-earth/: the diameter of the Earth at the equator is about 43 kilometers (27 mi) larger than the pole-to-pole diameter... the latest measurements indicate that the Earth has an equatorial diameter of 12,756 km...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I'll assume you meant "area beyond the south pole". Your Adm Byrd video is another complete refutation of your flat earth assertion. First he mentions the south pole. There is no south pole in the standard flat earth model. Then Adm Byrd mentions this unexplored area beyond the south pole that...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The earth in the video is spinning. But the satellite that took the pictures is moving at essentially the same rate. Thus no apparent spin. This answer is from the comment under the video YOU POSTED when you look at it from youtube: Published on Jan 18, 2017 The Himawari 8 satellite is a...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    No, you're right. It was a complete refutation of your post.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Research is good. Thought is good too. Seeking good counsel is good. Ignoring what other people say--not good. I'm not sure I believe you, that you really wanted people to critique the videos, as you didn't seem to appreciate the critique of the ice wall picture--you certainly didn't...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    No, I'd rather stay in my opinion without ever considering the other side. I am the sole determiner of truth. Even if I'm wrong, I just tell people to go read some more until they either stop bothering me or they accept what I'm saying as truth. You're my inspiration, Dave!
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The first part of your statement is true--no one can go very far into Antarctica! That's because you can only go so far before you start going back out the other side. And you can only go so far south before you are going north again. Funny how those two things seem to go together. But...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    If we can't talk about one of the evidences, how can we talk about any of them. If ice walls somehow indicate an unreachable land of unknown size, then we must have many of those around the world--the unreachable lands, that is. But if one can go a few miles or even a few hundred miles, if...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    So you are saying that you've already argued out the fake picture of the ice wall? And you're still using it? That's even more shameful. Can you acknowledge that your picture was fake and the ramifications of using fake data to try to disprove someone else's supposedly fake data? Shall I help...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Actually, they are. You have presented two simple facts that the earth is flat and the moon landings were faked. One of the evidences you give for a flat earth was faked. You should at least question at this point which party is feeding you inaccurate information. Since I have shown that the...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I started one here: http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?124410-Joshua-s-Long-Day-Does-it-mandate-a-Geocentric-Cosmology I'm hoping to add some stuff to it a little later, but I have other pressing things to do first.
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    ECT Joshua's Long Day--Does it mandate a Geocentric Cosmology?

    This was lifted from another thread (about flat earth and fake moon landings) where it didn't really fit the topic. Ask Mr. Religion, always a good source for biblical information, brought up that the passage in Joshua 10 about the sun standing still can only refer to a geocentric...
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