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    Jesus is God !

    God's spirit is not the the Son. There is no scripture to support this. I don't deny you can try to eisegesis it in, but that doesn't mean the Bible support it. In Colossians 1:19, God's spirit filled Jesus - all of God was not contained in Jesus.
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    Jesus is God !

    And your evidence that the translation is wrong is , you hate me? John 8:58 only proves your belief in your imagination. The blind man in the following chapter declares I AM. As for John 20:28, there are a few simple explanations but I'll go with John 10:34 and John 20:31.
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    "Son of Man"

    Not a question for you, but hopefully you've been following along. What you said means that when OZOS quoted me saying "God is also called the Father." and then said He can't make the conclusion that Jesus is God because Jesus isn't the Father.
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    Jesus is God !

    Jesus isn't God. You're having difficulty with the King James. Do you have a 20-21 volume exhaustive Oxford Dictionary available? Beware false friends from 16th century English. Hebrews 10:5 NLT That is why, when Christ came into the world, he said to God, “You did not want animal...
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    Jesus is God !

    John 3:34 NLT For he is sent by God. He speaks God’s words, for God gives him the Spirit without limit. No one. Jesus was human. Hence he had a body. All humans have bodies.
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    "Son of Man"

    But does Jesus = Father?
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    "Son of Man"

    Are you claiming Jesus = Father? Also read the following verse. John 14:10 KJV Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Also John 14:20 KJV At that day ye...
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    "Son of Man"

    I had to go and and check and see why you were quoting a passage that opposes the trinitarian view. I just had to come to the conclusion that you didn't understand the passage. One Lord - 1 Corinthians 8:6 NLT But for us, There is one God, the Father, by whom all things were created, and...
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    "Son of Man"

    Romans 10:1-2 NLT [2] I know what enthusiasm they have for God, but it is misdirected zeal.
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    "Son of Man"

    So, what Peter said about Jesus was false? How about Paul? Acts 20:21 NLT I have had one message for Jews and Greeks alike—the necessity of repenting from sin and turning to God, and of having faith in our Lord Jesus. Romans 10:9 NLT [9] If you openly declare that Jesus is Lord and believe in...
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    "Son of Man"

    You still haven't given up the idea of salvation being an IQ test. They died because they had done. Genesis 3:13-14,17 Romans 5:14 I hate to burst you bubble OZOS, but you're not the one true God.
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    Jesus is God !

    That's rich. You quote a verse completely out of context, and then falsely accuse the opponent you're debating of what you actually did. You say the purpose of John 2:19 is to say that Jesus is God. So, unfortunately John didn't provide any commentary so I won't . . . Oh wait! John did...
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    Black History Month

    That explains a lot
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    Derailment thread for any and all derailments

    If we are talking about everyone who calls themselves a Christian then you're right. There are tons of murderers in jail who have had "born-again" experiences and claim tey've turned over a new leaf. Many do this to get out of jail or obtain parole earlier Many people in power claim...
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    Jesus is God !

    So, quoting Jesus' words is calling hem a liar. What sort of messed up logic is that. Isaiah 5:4-5 KJV What could have been done more to my vineyard, that I have not done in it? wherefore, when I looked that it should bring forth grapes, brought it forth wild grapes? [5] And now go to; I...
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    Jesus is God !

    " the word which you hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me."
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    "Son of Man"

    Acts 2:22-41 is the breifest synopsis of the Gospel. I know. It doesn't state what you want it to. At no point does Jesus ask his disciples or anyone else to believe that he is the one true God. Neither does anyone else. Once again, you're changing salvation into an IQ test. This is...
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    Jesus is God !

    I didn't change the subject. If you had any clue what Israel meant, you'd know that. Maybe you should read Job as well. You've repeatedly demonstrated that you haven't read any church history whatsoever. Otherwise, you'd understand that you are far closer to an Arian belief than I am...
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    Biden stomps on Native American treaties.

    Don't look at me. You're the insane person saying "Trump says- gospel truth." You should really get your head examined.
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    "Son of Man"

    You've never escaped Platonism have you? At no point does scripture tell Christians to believe Jesus is the one true God. And this is the part you don't have a scripture for. You either missed or did not understand 5:3-4. Here it is in the easier to understand NLT. 2 Corinthians 5:3-4 NLT...
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