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Hey, you're free to think that no laws would be valid without God. Somehow, I reckon we'd still have laws against rape and murder etc so crack on.

It was common sense is all and most societies have laws against violent crime including ones that don't have the Bible as foundation believe it or not to provide one example.

It ain't wrong, it's fact. Deal with it or don't. Reality will remain the same either way. What you advocate is religious extremism and it sure ain't right. No civilized society would tolerate what you propose and rightly so. The Nazis were far right and your denial doesn't alter the fact...

Er, all I did was point out to you that not everybody believes in God which is their prerogative. Everything was on point and we sure don;t need some wingnut dictatorship in the West. The confusion here is all yours.

It's only humans that can sin, right?

What are you talking about? It's only a minority on the fringes of the far right that would have some sort of dictatorial state imposed and most from left to right don't want that.

And yet it's prevalent throughout nature...

Of course it isn't and what you and others advocate for society and declare about others can be summarily dismissed. The kind of things promoted by the far right have no place in any form of even semi civilized society and thankfully, that is the actual reality. People have the right to have...

Not to mention the beauty pageants... https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/a-timeline-of-donald-trumps-creepiness-while-he-owned-miss-universe-191860/ “He just came strolling right in,” Dixon said. “There was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything...

You were right, he isn't and there was nothing trollish about UN's post either. A shame if you're going to be reduced to calling people trolls for having differing opinion.

Ah, the predictable Leviticus verse. I'll let this answer though doubtless you'll disagree... https://www.bibleandhomosexuality.org/does-leviticus-mean-homosexuality-is-an-abomination/ No, it shouldn't.

No, it isn't. It's not a claim either, it's reality regardless of what you believe should be imposed and it's how it should be. People most certainly do have the right not to get married and have sex, that's reality also. Well, I'd hardly expect the Bible to encourage casual sex and marriage...

Which is what we have.

Not everybody believes in God and that's their prerogative. People are free to believe and worship just as those who don't. How it should be. Sure don't need some wingnut dictatorship mandating laws based on their beliefs and thankfully in the west society is protected from that coming into being.

Homosexuality isn't a crime against nature and unless mistaken it's not a crime in North Carolina either. Why on earth would it be?

By acknowledging that they should have the same rights as everyone else in society? Oh, okay then.

It's not the governments business either. What consenting couples do with their private relations is precisely nobody else's business. It's people's prerogative to get married or not. Plenty do, plenty don't. That's their business. Are you kidding me? If a kid is discovered stealing from a...

So, what would you consider a befitting penalty for homosexual couples then? Do tell.

Focusing on the latter two. What the heck business is it of yours or anyone else's if two unmarried folk are having sexual relations? If I "discovered" that then it would be none of mine unless I considered myself a self appointed busybody with nothing better to do than inform the equally self...

Civilized nations don't impose dictatorships on the populace. They allow for freedom of and freedom from religion. Again, any objections?