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That's gotta be the absolute worst explanation of any gospel I've ever heard. Do you not even listen to Paul? [Rom 12:1 NKJV] I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, [which is] your reasonable service...

But they thought they did, Gary. That's my point. They were willing to take what they thought they knew about God and the law and put it on a higher level than what Jesus told them, than what the bible told them. I don't want to diminish any of your experiences, but no matter what you tell me...

So what I think you're saying is that we are not to fear God or work righteousness? Is that part of the grace of God? You are saying that we are free to be like this: "lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural...

Can you quote scripture that says "until God gave it to Paul"? I submit that it was hid until Paul's time, but obviously Peter was preaching the gospel to Cornelius. He certainly wasn't preaching your 'gospel of the kingdom' to him. And surely you don't think Peter was preaching Paul's gospel...

And when. We aren't ready to judge angels or the world yet.

Yes, but Peter didn't understand that the same message that he and the apostles were commissioned to speak to "the people" (Israel), he was now speaking to Cornelius, at God's direction. The same message. The same gospel. It was new that it was to go to the Gentiles, but it wasn't a new message.

Because they thought they knew God, and were not willing to hear when Jesus accused them of adding to God's law. I don't despise you, Gary. Truth of what? Your personal experience, which can't be verified by a second witness, or the Bible that is consistent over 66 books written over 1000...

Translation of what Gary is saying: "I know God better than the bible does. So ignore what the bible says and listen to me."

We're not talking about God's power, but His patience. Everyone else can see that you changed the subject because you've lost the argument. Can you?

I'm just saying that you have no biblical evidence for God's "infinite patience." But if that's what He had, then He would allow sin to continue for eternity. How else do you define "infinite patience"? Since both you and I reject the idea that God would let sin continue forever, then we BOTH...

So you are admitting that God either doesn't have infinite patience, or He at least doesn't exercise it, right? And you admit that the Bible never claims infinite patience as one of His attributes? Therefore you no longer believe God has always infinite patience?

How can you tell that God has infinite ability to control His emotions? Do you have a scripture to offer? If not, then isn't it a man-made idea? Here are some scriptures to counter the idea: [Gen 6:3 KJV] And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh...

Yes, that's what I was talking about...an inability. "Is God ABLE to deny Himself?" Paul tells us He CANNOT (defined as "unable" in most dictionaries). All of the translations that I looked up, save one, say "He cannot deny Himself". Cannot means "inability". Here's the one translation, Youngs...

I'm not sure that's in the definition, though I see why you would say it. But you seem to be admitting that "limitless" has its "limitations". This seems to illustrate what @Clete and @JudgeRightly are proposing...that God doesn't participate in those things that not good. The details of how...

wherever the limits come from, God shows He has limits, correct?

Is God able to deny himself?

"omni" means "all" and "potent" means "powerful" or "mighty", so both are accurate, since they mean the same thing. But your point about what some mean by "omnipotent" is worth delving into. @Gary K, can you explain, in few words, what you mean by "omnipotent"? @Clete, can you tell us what...

Right. If we instead retain our flawed understanding of God, then we disagree with scripture. This is the problem with just saying the omni's are the most important characteristics of God. They might be, but I can't see that from the scriptures that say "God is love" or "God is light" or "God is...

Ok, so you see "circumcision" as applying to Israel, right? So which was Peter called a hypocrite for? 1. For not keeping the law himself, or 2. For saying he was going to the circumcision only, but then he went to the Gentiles in Gal 2:14?

[Mal 1:2 KJV] I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? [Was] not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, [Mal 1:3 KJV] And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness. [Rom 9:13 KJV] As it is...