Search results

You still haven't explained why your garbage is any better than Paul's.

But is that law correct? Or are you willing to accept any law on the books? What if your city council decided to punish someone caught in adultery with death?

I think he's speaking of this: 1 Corinthians 7:6 (KJV) But I speak this by permission, [and] not of commandment. The question would follow as to which of the preceding verses it applies. Surely it doesn't apply to vs 5, making it merely a suggestion not to defraud one's spouse. Can you imagine...

Can you find one of those places where rape is condemned? Do any of those speak of husband and wife as the participants? How would you know what a "grip" looks like? Your own personal law code? You have no critiqueable or even accessible source of ethics, yet you want to impose that on...

What about Paul's comments I mentioned? And the question, if I remember correctly, was whether the Bible sanctions marital rape. My answer, using Paul's words, was that the spouse has the authority over the other's body with regard to sex. It's not a question of willingness once they are united...

Are you saying that women determine what is right vs wrong in a marriage?

So Paul of Tarsus was a wing nut?

According to you, o great lawgiver.

In a loving relationship there is no need to use force, because neither party is unrighteously holding back what belongs to the other.

Yes...over my body, at least in regard to sex.

Why would you assume I'd do that?

By whose decision? Yours? Since when do you make the rules? You say I can't give myself to my wife?

Explain what about it?

The forcing isn't the "right"--the sex is the "right", for either partner. 1 Corinthians 7:4 (KJV) The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. If I have power over her body, and she over mine, force isn't...

Which is exactly what I said quite a few posts back.

That's what most people say. Matthew 7:14 (KJV) Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

But if you reject God's loving offer, death is your reward--which he has every right to do.

I'll tell you how it's loving. God has every right to force us to do exactly as he wants. Instead, he allows us to do what he doesn't want (all have sinned and come short of the glory of God), at a penalty of death (the wages of sin is death). But he sent his own begotten son, who never did...

Isn't a command a "forcing"? If someone in authority says, "Do this," and you are obliged to obey under threat of punishment of some sort, is that not forced? Like stopping at a stop sign, for instance.

First let's apply it as written, to abstaining from sex. If there's no agreement to abstain, then there should be no abstaining. As long as that's followed, there is no occasion for forcing. Now I'll let you find the Bible verse for your position--that both partners have to agree before sex...