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I just quoted the scripture that applies. It said they would die. This is in contrast to what God did when He gave them life. If Adam started as dust, and God made him alive, then what would he be when he dies? Wouldn't he return to what he was before? Dust? Then their punishment was complete...

The calculations we can make regarding distance light has traveled assumes that the conditions we think we observe today (using that same light) have stayed the same since the light was emitted. We have other evidence—eyewitness accounts—that contradict the assumptions.

We, yes, but Satan? No. We never hear about a spiritual being dying. Maybe it can happen, but the Bible doesn’t talk about it. If we assume from that lack of evidence (always a risk) that Satan can’t die, then he doesn’t get eternal life like we do, who haven’t had it since Adam’s fall until Christ.

But does the Bible ever teach that death is the cessation of existence? Even one time?

Yes. Disobedience to God. I’m pretty sure this is consistent with answer I already gave. Edit: and perhaps “could” should replace “would” in your question. The first words the Bible tells us God spoke to Adam allow for man not to live forever.

I don’t understand this comment, ffree. Can you explain?

Good! We’re closing in on some agreement. Why would you need the “apart from God” caveat? Surely it is God we are talking about: Genesis 2:16-17 (NKJV) 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17 “but of the tree of the knowledge of good...

That’s a good story, but you have no way to prove. It’s a conjecture.

Except for the one that lasted forty years: Hebrews 3:8-9 (NKJV) 8 Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion, In the day of trial in the wilderness, 9 Where your fathers tested Me, tried Me, And saw My works forty years. Notice it uses the same form “in the day”

Well, they died “in the day” they ate of the tree.

This is a valuable conversation. Do the eternally damned have to live forever in order to be punished forever? I tend to think they do, but it’s not the type of life Christ came to give us, the more abundant kind. But I think I can explain some of the difference, or at least why there is a...

Do you mean any form man takes, including death?

I agree, but why not Moses, too? And the souls under the altar who are told to go back to sleep (“rest a little while longer”)?

Well, it was in the same sentence.

Sure. And a spiritually dead person can ask to bury an old spiritually dead person who isn’t yet physically dead. If you allow for “dead” to mean still alive in one case, you have to allow for it in the other. Jesus understood their question quite well, and restated it for them: Mark 12:26...

My bovine buddies don’t have spots. But they make great steaks and burgers.

Which gives it the power of euphemism. Once you euphemize death, it is no longer death, it's still life. That's my point. Satan said the same thing: "You will not surely die." (I.e., "God's just using a euphemism.") "It DEFINITELY wasn't a prophecy" vs [Act 2:30-31 KJV] Therefore being a...

“Better than that” wasn’t working, so I thought I’d try snark. If you won’t listen to snark either, I’m not sure where else to turn. You’ll have to explain what you mean by thwarting gravity. Gravity is not sentient. It doesn’t have a “will” or intention to be thwarted. Once again you are...

You can probably see why I was confused.

Apparently you understand less about energy than you do about entropy, if that's possible. Maybe they don't understand either biology or evolutionary theory. The general trend of evolution is toward more complex creatures from less complex creatures. More complex creatures require more...