It is not practical to treat a fertilized egg the same as we do a baby.
Practicality of something doesn't make something right or wrong.
It is wrong to murder the innocent. That includes the innocent baby in the womb, the moment he or she comes into existence.
We?
You have a mouse in your pocket or something?
Anyways, you might not, but a fertilized human egg is a baby, a human being, by definition, and should be treated as such.
except when someone like you wants to accuse someone of murder.
This coming from someone who clearly wants to murder children in the womb.
No one is charged for neglect because of a miscarriage.
Duh, because a miscarriage isn't intentional.
It's a completely different story when you intentionally kill a child.
Pregnant women cannot ride the carpool lane unless someone else is on the car.
That's a matter of governmental infrastructure policy, aka code of use, not morality, and as such, does nothing to justify killing the child in the womb.
Says the murderer-at-heart.
Catch a rape induced pregnancy early enough then there is no baby.
This is probably the dumbest thing I've seen you say so far.
Pregnancy by definition means there's a baby.
If the woman is pregnant, then there's a baby inside her.
If there's no baby, then she's not pregnant, by definition!
The definition of pregnant, as it pertains to this discussion:
pregnant - having a child or young developing in the uterus
Thanks for conceding the entire discussion!
The rapist is the wrong doer
So punish him by executing him.
Don't punish the child for the crime of the father. The child is innocent.
who set up the terrible situation,
Part of the blame (at least in today's society) lies on the government for not punishing criminals harshly enough.
Nor the child in her womb.
It is terrible because of the potential we can imagine.
Potential? Are you referring to the child? Because even children not conceived in rape can be terrible people later in their lives, yet that still doesn't give anyone the right to kill them in the womb, long before they ever consider doing evil things.
A fertilized egg has no blood for the first two weeks and pumps the woman's blood after three weeks.
And yet, it's a living human being.
That means, that there is a lifeblood within him, a process that continues to function so long as the baby lives.
But you want to spill that blood.
Like I said before, your bloodlust is showing.
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Killing that is righteous isn't murder
Killing the righteous and/or the innocent IS murder.
An egg fertilized by no volitional conduct of a woman is not righteous.
Wrong.
The
ACT of fertilizing an egg of a woman without her implicit consent (AKA rape) is not righteous.
The baby is innocent, and therefore, righteous.
The baby conceived through rape is one of the victims OF the rape.
Grow up, Mary, stop acting like a petulant child.
Playing with semantic origins is futile.
Semantics has nothing to do with this. It's the very definition of the word, yet you use "fetus" rather than "baby" because it's from a different language. It's obfuscation.
Quit obfuscating.
A concept is valid when it hangs together with other exemplars within the concept.
No idea what you're referring to here.
A zygote is more similar to a gamete than it is to an individual.
No, it's not.
An egg or a sperm (gametes) is only half of what is needed to create a new human life.
A zygote is a living human being, created in the image of God.
Completely different!
Supra.
Self-defense and lethal actions in war are righteous killing as examples.
Not always, but generally speaking, yes. And?
Neither of those justify killing the baby in the womb.
Halting the evil actions of a rapist is righteous when done diligently.
A baby conceived in the womb after a rape happens is not the actions of the rapist. It's simply what happens naturally when a sperm and egg join. There's even fireworks to celebrate whenever a new human being comes into existence. If you're not sure what I'm talking about, look up "zinc flash" on YouTube, or watch the video I posted earlier.
Just because a baby is conceived as a result of rape doesn't mean that the baby is somehow deserving of death. It's just the opposite, the baby should be loved, and protected by law, from the moment of conception, from people like you who want to murder them simply because their father was a rapist.
There was a saying in Israel, "The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge."
God got angry at Israel for this saying, because the saying was referring to punishing children for the sins/crimes of their father:
The word of the Lord came to me again, saying,“What do you mean when you use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying: ‘The fathers have eaten sour grapes, And the children’s teeth are set on edge’?“
As I live,” says the Lord God, “
you shall no longer use this proverb in Israel.“Behold, all souls are Mine; The soul of the father As well as the soul of the son is Mine;
The soul who sins shall die.
But if a man is just And does what is lawful and right;If he has not eaten on the mountains, Nor lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, Nor defiled his neighbor’s wife, Nor approached a woman during her impurity;If he has not oppressed anyone, But has restored to the debtor his pledge; Has robbed no one by violence, But has given his bread to the hungry And covered the naked with clothing;If he has not exacted usury Nor taken any increase, But has withdrawn his hand from iniquity And executed true judgment between man and man;If he has walked in My statutes And kept My judgments faithfully—
He is just; He shall surely live!” Says the Lord God.“If he begets a son who is a robber Or a shedder of blood, Who does any of these thingsAnd does none of those duties, But has eaten on the mountains Or defiled his neighbor’s wife;If he has oppressed the poor and needy, Robbed by violence, Not restored the pledge, Lifted his eyes to the idols, Or committed abomination;If he has exacted usury Or taken increase— Shall he then live? He shall not live! If he has done any of these abominations, He shall surely die; His blood shall be upon him.“
If, however, he begets a son Who sees all the sins which his father has done, And considers but does not do likewise;Who has not eaten on the mountains, Nor lifted his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, Nor defiled his neighbor’s wife;Has not oppressed anyone, Nor withheld a pledge, Nor robbed by violence, But has given his bread to the hungry And covered the naked with clothing;Who has withdrawn his hand from the poor And not received usury or increase, But has executed My judgments And walked in My statutes—
He shall not die for the iniquity of his father; He shall surely live!“
As for his father, Because he cruelly oppressed, Robbed his brother by violence, And did what is not good among his people, Behold, he shall die for his iniquity.“Yet you say, ‘Why should the son not bear the guilt of the father?’ Because the son has done what is lawful and right, and has kept all My statutes and observed them, he shall surely live.
The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.“But if a wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die.None of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him; because of the righteousness which he has done, he shall live.Do I have any pleasure at all that the wicked should die?” says the Lord God, “ and not that he should turn from his ways and live?“But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that the wicked man does, shall he live? All the righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered; because of the unfaithfulness of which he is guilty and the sin which he has committed, because of them he shall die.“
Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ Hear now, O house of Israel, is it not My way which is fair, and your ways which are not fair?When a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity, and dies in it, it is because of the iniquity which he has done that he dies.Again, when a wicked man turns away from the wickedness which he committed, and does what is lawful and right, he preserves himself alive.Because he considers and turns away from all the transgressions which he committed, he shall surely live; he shall not die.Yet the house of Israel says, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ O house of Israel,
is it not My ways which are fair, and your ways which are not fair?“Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways,” says the Lord God. “Repent, and turn from all your transgressions, so that iniquity will not be your ruin.Cast away from you all the transgressions which you have committed, and get yourselves a new heart and a new spirit. For why should you die, O house of Israel?For I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies,” says the Lord God. “Therefore turn and live!” - Ezekiel 18:1-32
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel18:1-32&version=NKJV
