Not do you think you're right--do you hope that you are right that there is no God and therefore no ultimate justice in the afterlife?
Atheists, do you hope you're right?
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I'm glad you used the word hope
they don't use that word
there is no hope for them
just ask them
do they want God to exist?
and
watch them run for cover
they don't want to answer that question
Dennis Prager discussed this on his radio program today.
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glassjester
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Hedshaker
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I guess we're in the same boat as you if you've been worshipping the wrong god, which is plausible given that the evidence for all the gods is exactly the same, none at all. :juggle:
Tyrathca
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Yes, the thought of ISIS being right and having to face their Allah is frightening!
Hedshaker
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Yes, the thought of ISIS being right and having to face their Allah is frightening!
................ Boom!!!!!! :chuckle:
An atheist on his program did the same. He simply answered I'm right but that wasn't the question. The question is not: Are you right? The question is: Do you hope you are right?
Yes, the thought of ISIS being right and having to face their Allah is frightening!
One man called Prager's show and again wouldn't answer the question. He said he hadn't thought about it in his 45 years of life.
You'll get a glimpse into their heart. :sherlock:
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Prager played a Krauthammer soundbite on his program.
Tyrathca
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The problem is it is a dumb question, not only because what we want is irrelevant to what is true but also because there isn't a single version of good to accept or reject. So do I hope of I'm right of there is no God? Depends on the god, a kind and benign one or an aloof and disinterested one maybe is like to be wrong. However most versions describe a petty and vindictive (if not downright cruel) God in which case I hope I am right.
flintstoned
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Well, first of all, as an atheist, I simply have not been convinced to believe in any god. That doesn't mean that I am claiming that gods do not in fact exist. How should I know? For all I know, there could be hundreds out there! I just have not had any personal experience of any god or have seen any convincing evidence yet to believe in any particular god.
I don't know about you, but my beliefs are the result of being convinced (by evidence/experience) of something's truth. I cannot choose to believe in the existence of something based on fear, or even based on my wants/desires. Heck, there are some things that I believe in that I would rather not believe, but have no choice based on the overwhelming evidence.
Even if someone were to offer me 10 million dollars to believe that I was a porcupine, for example, I couldn't make myself actually believe. Would I want to believe it? Heck yeah! Could I “try” to believe? Yes! Could I pretend to believe it? Sure! But would I actually believe it? No. Like I said before, wanting to believe something does not change the fact that I do not actually believe it.
Believing that something exists should be independent of whether or not that belief could give you comfort or fulfill a desire. Either you are convinced by evidence that a particular god exists, or you are not convinced and you remain without belief (as a non-believer; atheist) until such time as you are provided with such. For instance, if I was convinced by evidence that a two headed tyrant god existed, I would have no choice but to believe that it existed, period....regardless of how much I hoped that it did not.
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Interplanner
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serpentdove,
are you a Prager fan? he was on this this past tuesday for Ultimate Issues. 'do you hope you are right or wrong?' Spot on! pragerradio.com
are you a Prager fan? he was on this this past tuesday for Ultimate Issues. 'do you hope you are right or wrong?' Spot on! pragerradio.com
There are no dumb questions. Just dumb people (Ps 14:1).
There aren't versions of God. God is good (Ex. 34:6, Ps. 31:19). Not the question. :juggle:
Not the question.
God is: living, personal, relational, good and loving. Do you hope that you are right that God does not exist?One that makes no demands of you (Jn 3:18–20).
One that does not hold you accountable for your actions (Is. 46:13; Zeph. 1:14).
Ro 5:8
We are not discussing your spaghetti god in the sky. We are discussing Yahweh , the God of scripture.
You do not care if there is an ultimate justice--a God who sets all things right (Deut. 32:4). :idunno:
Jamie Gigliotti
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If you are wrong you suffer a horrendous fate. If Christians are wrong we lose nothing. This describes Pascal's wager.
The evidence is not the same. Eleven of Christ's disciples were tortured and killed for not denying the truth of their testimony, that they saw the risen Jesus.
The Only true God proved He is love by the sacrifice of His Son, which was One with Him. His self incarnated. The Judgement is unavoidable because of His Holiness, His Love and Mercy are a product of that same Holiness.
Humans have an inate sense of right and wrong, that philosophers call the natural law that we all know exists. This Law is evidence of moral truth, of a Law Giver (God). Only physcopaths have no conscience.
Physicists agree the universe came into being in an instant. Natural Selection proves that species change physical characteristics. It does not prove species changing into other species. Chromosomes are not added or subtracted. Amazingly Lions and Tigers are the same species with different physical characteristics.
Jamie Gigliotti
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Imagine the most glorious rich earthly King suffering a horrendous death for His love of those who mocked and despised Him. This describes the one true God.
Jamie Gigliotti
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If you seek God you will find Him. His presence will give you all the proof you need. Read the New Testament and sincerly ask Him to reveal Himself to you and He will.
Why do you identify as "other"?
Not the question.
Not asking what you know. Asking what you hope. :freak:
Not the question. :AMR:
Not the question.
Not here to discuss your beliefs.
:noway: You won't be frightened into truth.
TMI :granite:
Not the question.
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"He can't find God for the same reason a thief can't find a police officer." ~ Adrian Rogers