Attacks on Brussels airport, metro

Nick M

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Close/delete your thread so I can start a proper one on the muslims who murdered 37 more people today.
 

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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wire...m-surveillance-us-sparking-criticism-37849925


Cruz and Trump want to increase spying on Muslims and torture in response to the Belgium attacks.

Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz said Tuesday that surveillance in Muslim neighborhoods in the U.S. must be intensified following the deadly bombings at Brussels, while rival Donald Trump suggested torturing a suspect in last year's Paris attacks would have prevented the carnage.

Echoing Trump's earlier statements, Cruz said the U.S. should stop the flow of refugees from countries where the Islamic State militant group has a significant presence. The Islamic State took credit for the attacks at the Brussels airport and a subway station that killed dozens Tuesday and wounded many more.

"We need to empower law enforcement to patrol and secure Muslim neighborhoods before they become radicalized," the Texas senator said in a statement.

Trump praised Cruz's plan as a "good idea" that he supports "100 percent" in an interview with CNN. The GOP front-runner also intensified his past calls for the U.S. to engage in harsher interrogation techniques, arguing that Belgium could have prevented the bombings had it tortured a suspect in last year's Paris attacks who was arrested last week.

"Well, you know, he may be talking, but he'll talk a lot faster with the torture. ... Because he probably knew about it. I would be willing to bet that he knew about this bombing that took place today," Trump said.


Trump, who has proposed a temporary ban on foreign Muslims entering the U.S., said "nothing's nice" about techniques such as waterboarding, which simulates drowning. He added, "It's your minimal form of torture. We can't waterboard and they can chop off heads."

Rep. Adam Schiff of California, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said earlier Tuesday the Brussels plot was probably already underway before the suspect's arrest and that his apprehension may have sped up its execution.

When reminded that international law prohibits torture, Trump responded: "Well, I would say that the eggheads that came up with this international law should turn on their television and watch CNN right now, because I'm looking at scenes on CNN right now as I'm speaking to you that are absolutely atrocious."

Speaking Tuesday afternoon in New York, Cruz praised the city's police department's former program of conducting surveillance in Muslim neighborhoods, called for its reinstatement and said it could be a model for police departments nationwide.

"New Yorkers want a safe and secure America," Cruz said. "New Yorkers saw first-hand the tragic consequences of radical Islamic terrorism."

Nice to know that Trump wants to judge our actions based on what terrorists do. :plain:


I was curious about what Cruz meant exactly but then the article does explain what the NY program did.

After the 9/11 attacks, the New York Police Department used its intelligence division to cultivate informants and conduct surveillance in Muslim communities. In a series of articles, The Associated Press revealed the intelligence division had infiltrated dozens of mosques and Muslim student groups and investigated hundreds. The program was disbanded amid complaints of religious and racial profiling.

Cruz is firmly on the safety side of the safety/privacy equation. I'm not really sure how that will 'secure Muslim neighborhoods before they're radicalized' anyway. Where is the line?
 

Nick M

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Cruz and Trump want to increase spying on Muslims and torture in response to the Belgium attacks.

No, they just want to go back to what we were doing before the muslim from Kenyan was sworn in.
 

patrick jane

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There shouldn't be Muslim neighborhoods. We should not let them gather in one area of a city or town. Keep them spread out
 

Nick M

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There shouldn't be Muslim neighborhoods. We should not let them gather in one area of a city or town. Keep them spread out

Like the Italians on the Hill? They need to be deported. Islam is incompatible with the 1st amendment. However, atheism is not.
 

patrick jane

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On CNN they are basically giving the recipes for the cheap, powerful, undetectable home made explosives. After they explained how they are made CNN predicts we'll see more of them. Ya think ? :noway:
 

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On CNN they are basically giving the recipes for the cheap, powerful, undetectable home made explosives. After they explained how they are made CNN predicts we'll see more of them. Ya think ? :noway:

In USA you can go down to the Sporting goods store on the corner and by all the Gun powder you want.
All the guns you want too, and ammo, you're really only limited by your wallet.
 

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Convert or face the sword....no establishment of religion. You can't see the contrast?

But you see, their belief that you shouldn't have other religions is protected by the very right that they don't want others to have.
 

Nick M

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But you see, their belief that you shouldn't have other religions is protected by the very right that they don't want others to have.

No. To enter the Body of Christ is voluntary. Hence, our 1st amendment. Islam demands you convert or face the sword. All muslims agree with al-Qaeda and ISIS. All of them. They are only against each other because of Sunni and Shia differences. Once claims they inherit authority, the other says they pick it. Small potatoes, but they will kill each other over it.

But you are still the enemy.

Not having religion is not a part of the Bill of Rights. The Congress cannot make you follow, there cannot be a state religion. An Islamic republic is as a state religion. Go move to Kuwait if you think islam is compatible with religious freedom.
 

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No. To enter the Body of Christ is voluntary. Hence, our 1st amendment. Islam demands you convert or face the sword. All muslims agree with al-Qaeda and ISIS. All of them. They are only against each other because of Sunni and Shia differences. Once claims they inherit authority, the other says they pick it. Small potatoes, but they will kill each other over it.

But you are still the enemy.

Not having religion is not a part of the Bill of Rights. The Congress cannot make you follow, there cannot be a state religion. An Islamic republic is as a state religion. Go move to Kuwait if you think islam is compatible with religious freedom.

The Largest Mosque In the USA is about ten miles away from me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Center_of_America
So far no swords :idunno:
 

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........ Sunni and Shia differences. Once claims they inherit authority, the other says they pick it. Small potatoes, but they will kill each other over it.

But you are still the enemy.

Nick is right , they are the enemy.
 

Nick M

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The Largest Mosque In the USA is about ten miles away from me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Center_of_America
So far no swords :idunno:

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