RealityJerk
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Why do Christians insist that their God "wins", being victorious over the devil, in the end of time, when the vast majority of humanity will be cast into hell and tortured forever? The God who they claim is "love", and "just", will keep the vast majority of human beings, conscious, alive, in a state of eternal, utter torment, because they didn't convert to Christianity. How is that possible, while maintaining that God, is victorious and good?
Don't Christians realize, that most of humanity, isn't Christian? A person born in Saudi Arabia, is conditioned from childhood, to believe in Islam. The environment that person is raised in, is Islam. A person born in an Islamic country, in a family of Muslims, where everyone around them is Muslim, is hard-wired, mentally, emotionally, spiritually for Islam, not Christianity. Muslims in Saudi Arabia, don't have access to Christianity, Christians, to Christian ideas,talk,images,Music,holidays..etc, as we do here in the US, if at all. A person born and raised in the United States is saturated by Christianity. Christianity, is practically everywhere.
Here in the city where I live, in the US, there are several church congregations, within every square mile. I have a Baptist and "Church Of Christ" congregation, right across the street from my apartment building. Two churches within a block. There's Christianity on TV, Christianity on the radio, Christianity EVERYWHERE. I have plenty of access to Christianity and I've been somewhat conditioned, influenced by it, due to being born and raised here in the United States.
However, that person born in Saudi Arabia, spiritually, religiously, psychologically, emotionally, is a Muslim. He didn't have the privilege, the luxury, the good fortune, of being born in a Christian culture, where he would be conditioned or at least, better prepared, more receptive to and familiar with, the idea of God, from a Christian perspective. Being a Muslim, born and raised in Saudi Arabia, he doesn't perceive reality, through a Christian lens, he perceives it through an Arab, Muslim lens. In his mind, his soul, "God" is "Allah", and Muhammad is his prophet.
So, you accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior, because, whether you recognize it or not, it was easier for you to do so, as an American, a person born and raised in the western world. Whether you realize it or not, you've been "hard-wired", from childhood (Santa Clause-St Nick / Christmas / Baby Jesus in the manger / Christmas Cartoons, Easter egg hunt at church, Grandma sitting in front of the television getting her daily dose of the 700 Club, going to church with her when you were a child..etc. Even if your parents were Atheists, you were still "exposed" to Christianity to a much greater extent, higher degree, than that person born and raised in Saudi Arabia or in any other non-Christian culture.)
Doesn't your Christian God, realize this? He's going to cast and abandon all of the Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, non-religious people, into hell...( Many of these people, didn't have Christian parents, Christian people in general in their lives, there was no Baptist congregation across the street, no 700 Club, baby Jesus in the manger or Rudolf the red nose reindeer..). Let them all suffer, forever in the fires of hell, because they didn't convert to "Christianity"? How can anyone in their right mind, believe such nonsense?
Even if the gospel was preached, to these non-Christian people, they're more likely to reject than someone born in America, that has been familiarized, is somewhat familiar with, Jesus and Christianity. For these Muslims, Jesus isn't God incarnate, there is no need for God to become a man and die for anyone's sins. This is what they are conditioned, from childhood, to believe. For them, believing in Jesus is, "idolatry". A capital crime, worthy of death, similar to treason. Spiritual treason.
Doesn't your God, factor that in, before he abandons and consigns most of humanity to be tortured in hell, forever? Religious sectarianism, regardless of what religion it might be, is absurd. It strikes the conscience, as obscene. It's a very warped, skewed, infantile vision of the omnipotent, omniscience, omnipresent creator. It's an affront to His character. He's not glorified, by allowing the vast majority of human beings to perish in hell. If that is true, then he doesn't win. The devil wins, because he ends up devouring almost all of humanity.
Your "Christian" version of "God", is a gross sectarian religious caricature of the one true God. I don't see how Christians, in good conscience, can subscribe to these beliefs. It seems to me, that this belief is one forced upon you, by intimidation and fear. Your relationship with God, is based on the idea that he's going to torture you in hell, for all eternity, if you don't toe the religious line, and "believe", confess, certain theological concepts. You must recognize certain supposed historical events, that occurred, thousands of years ago (as if God would care..). Your idea of "loving God" and having a "relationship" with him, is like a woman with a knife to her throat, being threatened by a man, to "love" and have a "relationship" with him, "or else". Really? What type of "relationship" is that?
Pursue the truth, above all else, regardless of where it takes you. It's scary at first, but once you come to terms with it, with your conscience, you'll actually experience peace and happiness.
Churchianity, with all of its religious demands. Its Religious tyranny / terrorism, isn't going to "save" you. It's a rabbit trail, to no where.
All of you, who have turned, paper and ink, the so called "bible", into your God. Those who kill faith, by chasing after "absolute certainty", a "sack full of answers", that doesn't exist. Fear of faith, with all of its uncertainties, questions, demands. Faith leads to knowing, not to knowledge. You can have knowledge and perish. I can have knowledge about you, it doesn't imply I know you. Perhaps you 2 year old son, doesn't know much about you, but he knows his daddy and his daddy knows him. Sorry folks, we don't have a sack full of answers you can hang over your shoulder. Reality doesn't work that way.
It's those who don't know God or themselves, who place way to much emphasis on a book. The only book that matters, is the one written on the tablet of your heart. Your conscience. God is there, in side of all of creation.
Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph....What "book" did they have? Were they walking around with their KJVs? They had reality, the truth, a real relationship and experience with God. An undeniable encounter, with THE LIVING GOD. Having a genuine relationship with God, is not a book. Rabbinic Judaism, Islam, these are "book religions". The true followers of Jesus, his disciples, were guided by THE WORD, not the word.
THE LIVING ETERNAL WORD
Jesus transcends the papyrus. Put down the book for a moment, and hear His voice. Listen.
Don't Christians realize, that most of humanity, isn't Christian? A person born in Saudi Arabia, is conditioned from childhood, to believe in Islam. The environment that person is raised in, is Islam. A person born in an Islamic country, in a family of Muslims, where everyone around them is Muslim, is hard-wired, mentally, emotionally, spiritually for Islam, not Christianity. Muslims in Saudi Arabia, don't have access to Christianity, Christians, to Christian ideas,talk,images,Music,holidays..etc, as we do here in the US, if at all. A person born and raised in the United States is saturated by Christianity. Christianity, is practically everywhere.
Here in the city where I live, in the US, there are several church congregations, within every square mile. I have a Baptist and "Church Of Christ" congregation, right across the street from my apartment building. Two churches within a block. There's Christianity on TV, Christianity on the radio, Christianity EVERYWHERE. I have plenty of access to Christianity and I've been somewhat conditioned, influenced by it, due to being born and raised here in the United States.
However, that person born in Saudi Arabia, spiritually, religiously, psychologically, emotionally, is a Muslim. He didn't have the privilege, the luxury, the good fortune, of being born in a Christian culture, where he would be conditioned or at least, better prepared, more receptive to and familiar with, the idea of God, from a Christian perspective. Being a Muslim, born and raised in Saudi Arabia, he doesn't perceive reality, through a Christian lens, he perceives it through an Arab, Muslim lens. In his mind, his soul, "God" is "Allah", and Muhammad is his prophet.
So, you accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior, because, whether you recognize it or not, it was easier for you to do so, as an American, a person born and raised in the western world. Whether you realize it or not, you've been "hard-wired", from childhood (Santa Clause-St Nick / Christmas / Baby Jesus in the manger / Christmas Cartoons, Easter egg hunt at church, Grandma sitting in front of the television getting her daily dose of the 700 Club, going to church with her when you were a child..etc. Even if your parents were Atheists, you were still "exposed" to Christianity to a much greater extent, higher degree, than that person born and raised in Saudi Arabia or in any other non-Christian culture.)
Doesn't your Christian God, realize this? He's going to cast and abandon all of the Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, non-religious people, into hell...( Many of these people, didn't have Christian parents, Christian people in general in their lives, there was no Baptist congregation across the street, no 700 Club, baby Jesus in the manger or Rudolf the red nose reindeer..). Let them all suffer, forever in the fires of hell, because they didn't convert to "Christianity"? How can anyone in their right mind, believe such nonsense?
Even if the gospel was preached, to these non-Christian people, they're more likely to reject than someone born in America, that has been familiarized, is somewhat familiar with, Jesus and Christianity. For these Muslims, Jesus isn't God incarnate, there is no need for God to become a man and die for anyone's sins. This is what they are conditioned, from childhood, to believe. For them, believing in Jesus is, "idolatry". A capital crime, worthy of death, similar to treason. Spiritual treason.
Doesn't your God, factor that in, before he abandons and consigns most of humanity to be tortured in hell, forever? Religious sectarianism, regardless of what religion it might be, is absurd. It strikes the conscience, as obscene. It's a very warped, skewed, infantile vision of the omnipotent, omniscience, omnipresent creator. It's an affront to His character. He's not glorified, by allowing the vast majority of human beings to perish in hell. If that is true, then he doesn't win. The devil wins, because he ends up devouring almost all of humanity.
Your "Christian" version of "God", is a gross sectarian religious caricature of the one true God. I don't see how Christians, in good conscience, can subscribe to these beliefs. It seems to me, that this belief is one forced upon you, by intimidation and fear. Your relationship with God, is based on the idea that he's going to torture you in hell, for all eternity, if you don't toe the religious line, and "believe", confess, certain theological concepts. You must recognize certain supposed historical events, that occurred, thousands of years ago (as if God would care..). Your idea of "loving God" and having a "relationship" with him, is like a woman with a knife to her throat, being threatened by a man, to "love" and have a "relationship" with him, "or else". Really? What type of "relationship" is that?
Pursue the truth, above all else, regardless of where it takes you. It's scary at first, but once you come to terms with it, with your conscience, you'll actually experience peace and happiness.
Churchianity, with all of its religious demands. Its Religious tyranny / terrorism, isn't going to "save" you. It's a rabbit trail, to no where.
All of you, who have turned, paper and ink, the so called "bible", into your God. Those who kill faith, by chasing after "absolute certainty", a "sack full of answers", that doesn't exist. Fear of faith, with all of its uncertainties, questions, demands. Faith leads to knowing, not to knowledge. You can have knowledge and perish. I can have knowledge about you, it doesn't imply I know you. Perhaps you 2 year old son, doesn't know much about you, but he knows his daddy and his daddy knows him. Sorry folks, we don't have a sack full of answers you can hang over your shoulder. Reality doesn't work that way.
It's those who don't know God or themselves, who place way to much emphasis on a book. The only book that matters, is the one written on the tablet of your heart. Your conscience. God is there, in side of all of creation.
Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph....What "book" did they have? Were they walking around with their KJVs? They had reality, the truth, a real relationship and experience with God. An undeniable encounter, with THE LIVING GOD. Having a genuine relationship with God, is not a book. Rabbinic Judaism, Islam, these are "book religions". The true followers of Jesus, his disciples, were guided by THE WORD, not the word.
THE LIVING ETERNAL WORD
Jesus transcends the papyrus. Put down the book for a moment, and hear His voice. Listen.
