Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

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I want to know what "you" believe. Is loving God a work or not? Can we be saved by faith without loving God.

Based on what you are saying I would conclude that we do not have to love God, it's "not required" according to you. If it's not required then we don't have to do it.

That is what the Bible says.

Can anyone say, "I don't love God" but I will still have eternal life because I am saved through faith?

I don't think anyone that is saved does not love God, but it is not a requirement per the Bible.

You've lost yourself in the wonderland of hypotheticals.

Come back to earth Dave.

Ephesians 2:8 For by [God's] grace you are saved through [your] faith [in Christ]; and that not of yourselves: it [salvation] is the gift of God: 9 Not of [your] works, lest any man should boast.

Is faith in Ephesians a work?

No. You're becoming just as bad as you were in the flat earth thread.

Rom 4:5 (AKJV/PCE)​

(4:5) But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.​

Does works here mean "Jewish ceremonial law" only and not the Ten Commandments?

The Ten Commandments are simply a distillation of the whole law.

Do you think that they are somehow disconnected?

 

[DFT_Dave]

What Jesus taught

John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

This was the message to both Jews and Gentiles.

Jesus nullifies ceremonial law because he was the Lamb of God, no more lambs or sacrifices needed, which is why the Temple was destroyed. Jesus did not nullify the Ten Commandments because through it we know what sin is. What sin is will never change, but the means of salvation is no longer through the sacrifice of lambs on the alter in the temple but in the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross. Do we have to obey the Ten Commandments as Christians?

Romans 6:1 Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

If we are not to continue in sin then I think that means we should be living by the ten commandments.

--Dave

 

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What Jesus taught

John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

This is EXACTLY what happens when you TRY to take a passage excluded from the REST of scripture.

That is taking it OUT OF CONTEXT.

Jesus was born under the law and taught Israel the need to keep the law. It's just that simple.

Mark 16:16 (AKJV/PCE)​

(16:16) He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.​

Jesus said that THEY CANNOT be saved without being baptized.

If we are not to continue in sin then I think that means we should be living by the ten commandments.

The ten commandments were NOT given to gentiles.
The body of Christ is NOT under the law nor the ten C.

Exod 31:12-17 (AKJV/PCE)​

(31:12) ¶ And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, (31:13) Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it [is] a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that [ye] may know that I [am] the LORD that doth sanctify you. (31:14) Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it [is] holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth [any] work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. (31:15) Six days may work be done; but in the seventh [is] the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth [any] work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. (31:16) Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, [for] a perpetual covenant. (31:17) It [is] a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.​

Again I'll say, this thread is starting to sound just like you in the flat earth thread.