Defund Planned Parenthood Bill and a Born alive bill Passes House

[Angel4Truth]

Defund Planned Parenthood Bill Passes House

A bill stripping Planned Parenthood Federation of America of federal taxpayer dollars for a period of at least one year passed the U.S. House of Representatives.

Lawmakers in the House voted largely on party lines on Friday to pass HR 3134, 241 to 187, which would place a one-year moratorium on federal funding of Planned Parenthood.

"For the one-year period beginning on the date of the enactment of this Act, subject to subsection (b), no funds authorized or appropriated by Federal law may be made available for any purpose to Planned Parenthood Federation of America, Inc., or any affiliate or clinic of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, Inc., unless such entities certify that Planned Parenthood Federation of America affiliates and clinics will not perform, and will not provide any funds to any other entity that performs, an abortion during such period," reads HR 3134.

Subsection b of the proposed legislation provided exemptions on the basis of rape, incest, or health of the mother.

Over the summer, a pro-life group based in California named the Center for Medical Progress released a series of undercover videos purporting to show that Planned Parenthood, along with its affiliates and partners, engaged in illegal practices.

Supporters of the videos argue that they prove that the nation's largest abortion provider has been involved in illegal and unethical practices while critics have argued that the videos were in some way fabricated.

CMP's videos, which continue to be released into September, have reignited calls by many to defund Planned Parenthood of both state and federal funding.

On August 22, protests were held across the United States at hundreds of Planned Parenthood clinics demanding that the abortion provider be stripped of government funding.

Pro-Life Action League Executive Director Eric J. Scheidler, whose group helped organize the national protests, told The Christian Post last month that the goal was to draw more attention to what Planned Parenthood is doing.

"Our primary message is the shocking revelation that Planned Parenthood sells baby parts. While this story has dominated the pro-life and Christian press over the past month, many regular Americans have still never heard about it," said Scheidler.

"They deserve to know the truth about Planned Parenthood, an organization that receives over half a billion dollars every year from taxpayers. It is time for this corrupt organization to be deprived of all taxpayer funding and investigated by the U.S. Justice Department."

During the Friday morning debate, House members like Representative Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., argued in favor of the bill, saying most would consider it "common sense."

"If there is reason to investigate, then there is reason to withhold taxpayer dollars during that period of time," said Rep. Blackburn.

"Those dollars would be given to other facilities that provide women's health services. The American taxpayer has been very clear for a long time that they do not want taxpayer money spent on abortions."

Representative Kathy Castor, D-Fla., denounced the defunding bill, dubbing it in her opening remarks the "Deny Women Healthcare Act."

"Congressional approval ratings are at an all-time low and here's another example of why. Republicans in Congress have failed to fulfill their responsibility to our great nation again," said Rep. Castor.

"The bill … is an attempt by Republican leaders to distract the American public from their failure to do their job."

HR 3134 was one of two bills debated in the House on Friday that centered on the abortion debate. The other bill was HR 3504, titled the "Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act", which if enacted would add legal protections to babies who are born alive during an abortion.

Its a start while a justice department investigation continues.

 

[TracerBullet]

Its a start while a justice department investigation continues.

The start of what? More unwanted pregnancies? More cases of cancer?

 

[Angel4Truth]

Also today: Bill to Give Legal Protection to Babies Born-Alive During Abortion Passes House

The U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill that would grant legal protection for babies born alive in an attempted abortion.

In a vote of 248 yeas to 177 nays taken on Friday H.R.3504, titled the "Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act" was passed in a largely party line tally.

Introduced by Arizona Congressman Trent Franks earlier this month, H.R. 3504 seeks to amend the federal criminal code to mandate that abortion providers must give proper medical care to any baby born alive in their facility.

"If an abortion results in the live birth of an infant, the infant is a legal person for all purposes under the laws of the United States, and entitled to all the protections of such laws," read HR 3504.

"Any infant born alive after an abortion or within a hospital, clinic, or other facility has the same claim to the protection of the law that would arise for any newborn, or for any person who comes to a hospital, clinic, or other facility for screening and treatment or otherwise becomes a patient within its care."

Over the past few months, Congress has debated various pro-life measures including HR 3504 and the defunding of Planned Parenthood Federation of America due to a series of undercover videos released by a California-based pro-life group.

The videos purport to show Planned Parenthood talking freely about illegally harvesting aborted baby organs, limbs, and human tissue for sale.

Congressman Bob Goodlatte, a Republican representing Virginia and chair of the House Judiciary Committee, stressed in his opening remarks that "babies are born alive during failed abortions."

"Congress must move immediately to protect any children born alive during the course of a failed abortion," said Rep. Goodlatte.

"The bill before us today is simple yet profound, insofar as it might be a reflection of the nation's conscience."

Congresswoman Judy Chu, Democrat representing California, argued that the bill was merely a way in which Republicans were attempting to undermine women's health.

"This bill is not about protecting children born alive, its real intent is to further undermine a woman's right to choose," said Rep. Chu.

"Not only does this bill attempt to politicize women's health and limit women's access to abortion, it will interfere with the sacred doctor-patient relationship."

HR 3504 was one of two pro-life bills brought before Congress on Friday as the federal government nears the deadline for a possible government shutdown that some believe may come over Planned Parenthood funding.

Excellent news and another good start, text of the bill can be seen here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3504/text

 

[glorydaz]

Any right thinking person would agree with both these bills, but neither one stands a chance in the Senate, do they? Are we really at the place of another government shutdown threat, and is anyone in Washington brave enough to take a stand?


Do pigs fly?

 

[Angel4Truth]

Any right thinking person would agree with both these bills, but neither one stands a chance in the Senate, do they? Are we really at the place of another government shutdown threat, and is anyone in Washington brave enough to take a stand?


Do pigs fly?

With God all things are possible :cheers:

 

[glorydaz]

With God all things are possible :cheers:

:cheers:

 

[quip]

Defund Planned Parenthood Bill Passes House



Its a start while a justice department investigation continues.

ahhh .....the witchhunt has finally struck paydirt. What a shocker! :shocked:

 

[Nazaroo]

"Thank you for saving the lives of some children in the future."

 

[The Horn]

All the hysteria about Planned Parenthood and the demands to defund it are based on a pack of lies spread by a shadowy fanatical anti-choice organization called "Center for medical progress ."
They doctored videos in order to hoodwink Americans into believing that PP sells body parts form aborted fetuses , which it does not and never has, and for profit , despite the fact that PP is a non-profit organization and nobody works there expecting to get rich .
Ironically , defunding Planned Parenthood will do absolutely nothing to stop abortion and in fact will only INCREASE the abortion rate .
The contraceptives which PP has provided over the years for poor women have in fact PREVENTED an enormous number of abortions .
Not to mention all the other medical care it provides for poor women who would otherwise be unable to afford .
Defunding PP will actually be disastrously counterproductive .

 

[republicanchick]

The start of what? More unwanted pregnancies? More cases of cancer?

so we can put you down with

all the others who couldn't care less about human life in the womb



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[rocketman]

Any right thinking person would agree with both these bills, but neither one stands a chance in the Senate, do they? Are we really at the place of another government shutdown threat, and is anyone in Washington brave enough to take a stand?


Do pigs fly?

Irrelevant, the senate needs to suspend the filibuster rule make it a 51 vote majority (just like Reed did for Obamacare) pass this thing and make that turd Obama veto it! Let him add that to his laundry list of failures which are his legacy. Hopefully the senate will take a stand on something...

 

[Ktoyou]

The name alone "Planned Parenthood" is oppressive; since when does parenthood have to be planned? This name is key to there own intent, which is, it interfere with normal parenthood and children.

Horn, seriously. you need to find a forum where killers are given pity and innocent babies are killed at near random. That would be the best place for you!
Here, you should be in the red.

 

[HisServant]

All the hysteria about Planned Parenthood and the demands to defund it are based on a pack of lies spread by a shadowy fanatical anti-choice organization called "Center for medical progress ."
They doctored videos in order to hoodwink Americans into believing that PP sells body parts form aborted fetuses , which it does not and never has, and for profit , despite the fact that PP is a non-profit organization and nobody works there expecting to get rich .
Ironically , defunding Planned Parenthood will do absolutely nothing to stop abortion and in fact will only INCREASE the abortion rate .
The contraceptives which PP has provided over the years for poor women have in fact PREVENTED an enormous number of abortions .
Not to mention all the other medical care it provides for poor women who would otherwise be unable to afford .
Defunding PP will actually be disastrously counterproductive .

Wasn't the ACA designed to get all these 'poor' people on medicaid or private insurance through subsidies so that places like PP would not be needed anymore?

Then they could just go to their primary or referred gynecologist for birth control stuff and get referred to an abortion facility that is covered by private insurance.

Heck, they will get way better care going through insurance than they will at a clinic that is exempted from many laws.

 

[Cedarbay]

All the hysteria about Planned Parenthood and the demands to defund it are based on a pack of lies spread by a shadowy fanatical anti-choice organization called "Center for medical progress ."
They doctored videos in order to hoodwink Americans into believing that PP sells body parts form aborted fetuses , which it does not and never has, and for profit , despite the fact that PP is a non-profit organization and nobody works there expecting to get rich .
Ironically , defunding Planned Parenthood will do absolutely nothing to stop abortion and in fact will only INCREASE the abortion rate .
The contraceptives which PP has provided over the years for poor women have in fact PREVENTED an enormous number of abortions .
Not to mention all the other medical care it provides for poor women who would otherwise be unable to afford .
Defunding PP will actually be disastrously counterproductive .

Why can't PP find their own funding through private donations and sponsorships?

The top dogs at PP continue to thumb their noses at the public at large, the majority of whom oppose tax-funded abortion.

Check out the salaries of these "women's advocates".

http://www.stopp.org/article.php?id=9800

"While Planned Parenthood continues to paint itself as a champion of the poor, its top executives fluff their beds with obscene amounts of taxpayer money." (From the article cited above.)

 

[Cedarbay]

http://ppbabyparts.all.org/

 

[Angel4Truth]

Wasn't the ACA designed to get all these 'poor' people on medicaid or private insurance through subsidies so that places like PP would not be needed anymore?

Then they could just go to their primary or referred gynecologist for birth control stuff and get referred to an abortion facility that is covered by private insurance.

Heck, they will get way better care going through insurance than they will at a clinic that is exempted from many laws.

yep, meaning no need for PP

 

[Jose Fly]

Why can't PP find their own funding through private donations and sponsorships?

They do get non-government funding.

The top dogs at PP continue to thumb their noses at the public at large, the majority of whom oppose tax-funded abortion.

Tax dollars don't pay for abortions.

Check out the salaries of these "women's advocates".

$300,000 per year to head an organization as big and diverse as Planned Parenthood? How does that compare to the salaries of CEO's who run similarly sized companies? Shoot, an OB/GYN makes an average of $200,000-$250,000 per year.

So if the doctors working there make $200,000 per year, why is it so unreasonable for the head of the whole thing to earn $300,000?

 

[jeffblue101]

It's simply unbelievable that PP can admit to profiteering and the liberals in the media and in this forum would still defend them. It's beyond dispute that PP wants to profit and has profited off baby body parts.

jump to 1:07:00 to 1:10:00

Gatter: Here is my suggestion. Write me a three of four paragraph proposal, which I will then take to Laurel and the organization to see if we want to proceed with this. And then, if we want to pursue this, mutually, I talk to Ian and see how he feels about using a “less crunchy” technique to get more whole specimens. Then, if we agree to move forward, the steps, I would need to apply for a waiver at PPFA, in order to do this, we need to have a contract, do you have a contract?

Buyer: What we’ve used in the past is a materials transfer agreement. And obviously, that’s open to discussion.

Gatter: It needs to say exactly what your staff is going to do. It needs to say exactly what your expectations are. Exactly what the compensations is. That you’re agreeing that your person will only use specified the Federal government tissue donation form, you can add extra forms if you want. California-

Buyer: Do you have a copy of your form that you could send us and-

Gatter: Our form?

Buyer: Your form for tissue donation. The standard one.

Gatter: Outline this in the email you send, because I will forget as soon as I walk out.

Buyer: And are we agreed that $100 would keep you happy.
Laurel: I think so—

Dr. Gatter: Well let me agree to find out what other affiliates in California are getting, and if they’re getting substantially more, then we can discuss it then.

Buyer: Yes.

Dr. Gatter: I mean, the money is not the important thing, but it has to be big enough that it is worthwhile.

Buyer: No, no, but it is something to talk about. I mean, it was one of the first things you brought up, right? So.

Dr. Gatter: Mhm.

Buyer: Now here’s another thought, is we could talk about specimen, perspecimen per case, or per procured tissue sample.

Dr. Gatter: Mhm.

Buyer: So if we’re able to get a liver/thymus pair, maybe that is $75 per specimen, so that’s a liver/thymus pair and that’s $150.

Dr. Gatter: Mhm.

Buyer: Versus if we can get liver, thymus, and a brain hemisphere, and all that, then that’s—

Dr. Gatter: Okay.

Buyer: So that protects us so that we’re not paying for stuff we can’t use. And I think it also maybe illustrates things—

Dr. Gatter: It’s been years since I talked about compensation, so let me just figure out what others are getting, if this is in the ballpark, it’s fine, if it’s still low then we can bump it up. I want a Lamborghini. [laughs]

Buyer: [Laughs] What did you say?

Dr. Gatter: I said I want a Lamborghini! [laughs]

Buyer: Don’t we all, right?

not once did she mention "costs", its about bumping up the price so it can be "worthwhile" for her. how can any rational human being not see this as profiteering from a PP executive.

 

[Jose Fly]

Then there should be some paperwork....receipts, ledgers, invoices...something tangible showing PP profited from fetal tissue donations. Yet nothing...despite all the investigations, scrutiny, etc., not a single actual bit of documented evidence of illegal activities.

And as has been pointed out here before, in these videos PP staff repeated over, and over, and over that they cannot profit, must follow the law, and all actual agreements must be approved by their legal staff. Yet not one of those very clear statements found their way into the shorter videos.

Oh, but that's sheer coincidence....right?

 

[IMJerusha]

Defund Planned Parenthood Bill Passes House



Its a start while a justice department investigation continues.

Long enough to get a Republican in office and make it a permanent thing. I'm praying that God will look more favorably upon our nation when that happens.