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Did Paul believe God made one human who is father of all mankind?

ffreeloader

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What about babies? What are they made of?
What does that have to do with what God used to make Eve? Look at Adam's comments about what Eve was made from.

Genesis 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

The entire passage says nothing about dirt. Eve was called woman because she was taken out of man.

Just go ahead and speculate. I trust God and His word far more than I trust any human being. Your choice is apparently that you trust your own speculation more than you do the plainly spoken word of God. That's your choice, but it isn't mine.
 

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Where did Cain's wife come from?

"And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch" (Gen. 4:17).

His sister.
 

ffreeloader

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Where did Cain's wife come from?

"And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch" (Gen. 4:17).
That's the one burning question you have about the story of Cain? Why is trivia so important to you when the moral issues of Cain's life and his loss of salvation are so starkly portrayed?
 

Derf

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The entire passage says nothing about dirt. Eve was called woman because she was taken out of man.
You didn’t read the whole passage:
Genesis 3:19 (KJV) In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou [art], and unto dust shalt thou return.

This was spoken to Adam, but what happens to women when they die? “Rib thou art, and to rib shalt thou return?”

to anyone born to a woman: “Womb thou art, and to womb shalt thou return?”

I guess Adam’s the only one who has ever turned to dust when he died.

and Ffree, you’re too good for the old “I believe God, so you must be wrong” argument. It doesn’t mean anything except “I can interpret God’s word better than anyone else in the whole world.
 

Derf

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You didn’t read the whole passage:
Genesis 3:19 (KJV) In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou [art], and unto dust shalt thou return.

This was spoken to Adam, but what happens to women when they die? “Rib thou art, and to rib shalt thou return?”

to anyone born to a woman: “Womb thou art, and to womb shalt thou return?”

I guess Adam’s the only one who has ever turned to dust when he died.

and Ffree, you’re too good for the old “I believe God, so you must be wrong” argument. It doesn’t mean anything except “I can interpret God’s word better than anyone else in the whole world.
@ffreeloader
And I missed the first dirt reference, right there in your verse: Adam.
“The name Adam is derived from the Hebrew adom meaning "red" or adamah (אֲדָמָה) meaning "earth". In the Old Testament, Adam was the name given to the first man that G-d created. That he was created from earth or clay and life was breathed into him.” From http://www.ourbabynamer.com/meaning-of-Adam.html

Not that it’s a big deal—I admit I don’t know—but we should be careful extrapolating too far from the text. Better to speculate allowing for other interpretations than extrapolate and not allow other interpretations, imho.
 

Bradley D

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That's the one burning question you have about the story of Cain? Why is trivia so important to you when the moral issues of Cain's life and his loss of salvation are so starkly portrayed?
I was referring to the title of this op. "Did Paul believe God made one human who is father of all mankind?" I was wondering if Cain got married was there another family. But most commentaries believe Cain married a sister.
 

Omniskeptical

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I was referring to the title of this op. "Did Paul believe God made one human who is father of all mankind?" I was wondering if Cain got married was there another family. But most commentaries believe Cain married a sister.
Furthermore, the line of Cain goes through the line of Ham.
 

marke

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The fact that God created Eve from Adam's rib in no way takes away from the fact that God created her. God used soil to create Adam. He's used part of Adam to create Eve showing the relationship between them.
God also created every unborn baby murdered in the womb by barbarian savages who have no respect for God or human life whatsoever.
 

CHR_Iam_IST

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Does not Scripture clearly show that Adam of Genesis 2 was NOT the ONLY Created ("formed") being that GOD made:
Note "And GOD said, Let US make man in OUR IMAGE, after OUR LIKENESS: and let [t-h-e-m] have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So GOD created man in HIS OWN IMAGE, in THE IMAGE of GOD created he him; male and female created he [t-h-e-m]. And God blessed [t-h-e-m], and God said unto [t-h-e-m], Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."
If "them" implies plural as it does in Genesis 1:14-15,17,22, then who is the "them"; and why decree that the "them" - "have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth", yet CONFINE him/them to a Garden . . . nowhere near a body of water???
 

marke

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Does not Scripture clearly show that Adam of Genesis 2 was NOT the ONLY Created ("formed") being that GOD made:
Note "And GOD said, Let US make man in OUR IMAGE, after OUR LIKENESS: and let [t-h-e-m] have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So GOD created man in HIS OWN IMAGE, in THE IMAGE of GOD created he him; male and female created he [t-h-e-m]. And God blessed [t-h-e-m], and God said unto [t-h-e-m], Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."
If "them" implies plural as it does in Genesis 1:14-15,17,22, then who is the "them"; and why decree that the "them" - "have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth", yet CONFINE him/them to a Garden . . . nowhere near a body of water???
No proper interpretation of the Bible highlights some passages while contradicting others. That is how false doctrines are started.
 

Derf

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Does not Scripture clearly show that Adam of Genesis 2 was NOT the ONLY Created ("formed") being that GOD made:
Note "And GOD said, Let US make man in OUR IMAGE, after OUR LIKENESS: and let [t-h-e-m] have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So GOD created man in HIS OWN IMAGE, in THE IMAGE of GOD created he him; male and female created he [t-h-e-m]. And God blessed [t-h-e-m], and God said unto [t-h-e-m], Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."
If "them" implies plural as it does in Genesis 1:14-15,17,22, then who is the "them"; and why decree that the "them" - "have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth", yet CONFINE him/them to a Garden . . . nowhere near a body of water???
There were 4 rivers that flowed out of Eden. A river is a body of water.

And who said they were confined to the Garden?

“Them” is Adam and Eve and their offspring.
 

CHR_Iam_IST

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There were 4 rivers that flowed out of Eden. A river is a body of water.

And who said they were confined to the Garden?
And THE LORD GOD took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. (Genesis 2:15)
Who is "the man" to "keep it" for/from? Adam's job is in the Garden; nowhere else; had it been THE LORD GOD would have taken Adam to the animals rather than bringing the animals to him.
“Them” is Adam and Eve and their offspring.
There was no "Eve" until Chapter 2 when "THE LORD GOD (Chap 2)", not "GOD (Chap 1)", made her; & there were no Adam & Eve's off-springs until Chapter 4.
 

Derf

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And THE LORD GOD took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. (Genesis 2:15)
Who is "the man" to "keep it" for/from? Adam's job is in the Garden; nowhere else; had it been THE LORD GOD would have taken Adam to the animals rather than bringing the animals to him.

There was no "Eve" until Chapter 2 when "THE LORD GOD (Chap 2)", not "GOD (Chap 1)", made her; & there were no Adam & Eve's off-springs until Chapter 4.
And?
 
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