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Even a movie talking about how anti-evolution evidence is shot down is shot down. That's a pretty good sign Evolutionists like to shoot down other peoples ideas. :freak:
You brought up Dembeski in the context of his being punished for his ID views. That is what I responded to. That story is not in the movie.Chatmaggot writes
I have the original issues of American Spectator magazine chronicling the controversy between Baylor University and William Dembski. Are they in error also?
Notice that I said "they would have included it" not "they would have included him." I was referring to the controversy you referenced, not his role in the movie.You know what is interesting is that the movie leaves Dembski out of it. You'd think if it was such an open-and-shut case, they would have included it.
Another perspective... when a movie that dishonestly distorts science and history to promote its (mistaken) agenda comes out, people who care should speak up. I really believe that this movie is wrong, and that it is damaging to the church and our nation. Given that, how can I keep silent?Even a movie talking about how anti-evolution evidence is shot down is shot down. That's a pretty good sign Evolutionists like to shoot down other peoples ideas. :freak:
How many times have you seen it yet?Another perspective... when a movie that dishonestly distorts science and history to promote its (mistaken) agenda comes out, people who care should speak up. I really believe that this movie is wrong, and that it is damaging to the church and our nation. Given that, how can I keep silent?
:nono:Well, here is an example of a long-term controlled experiment on evolution:
Dr. Palsson has been running experiments in which E. coli must adapt to a diet of glycerol, an ingredient in soap. He found that within a few hundred generations, the bacteria could grow two to three times as fast as their ancestor. He then selected some of the evolved microbes and sequenced their genome. He compared their DNA with that of their common ancestor and pinpointed a few mutations that each line had acquired.
They adapted. Of course, not in a single lifetime (so not like your McDonalds analogy). Evolution works across generations, in small steps - not all at once, or within the lifetime of a single organism.:nono:
Sorry, that's not evolution. They are still E. coli.
It states they simply adapted to a different diet and grew faster because of it.
I do that all the time. If I eat at McDonalds everyday I grow two or three times as fast as my wife who eats rabbit food ...er...I mean...salad.
Did the mutations that he pinpointed have anything to do with the adaptions or are they simply noted?
I have had to rely on reviews. Of course, you didn't witness any of the events of the bible - you are stuck with the accounts of others- but that is not a problem, is it?How many times have you seen it yet?
After previewing the promotional materials provided by the movie's
marketers, we were concerned that the movie took an adversarial approach to
the scientific community. A number of RTB scholars and staff attended a
prerelease screening in Los Angeles recently and confirmed that EXPELLED
definitely does take such an approach. The movie draws an analogy between
the Berlin wall and the scientific community's response to intelligent
design. By doing so, EXPELLED implicitly argues that the scientific
community deems certain questions off-limits, particularly any question
about the legitimacy of neo-Darwinian evolution. The movie further argues
that academia, the media, and the courts all conspire as "thought police" to
oppress any and all dissent from the party line.
Clearly some oppression and discrimination have occurred, but the experience
of RTB scholars and many of their contacts refutes the movie's premise that
the scientific community systemically and unilaterally fosters these
injustices. While individual scientists and institutions have behaved
unfairly at times, this charge cannot in all fairness be leveled against the
scientific community as a whole.
No truth to be afraid of.You're just afraid of the TRUTH!
Actually, the site mirrors the outline and claims of the movie. Expelled is, in fact, inaccurate and deceitful.
For example, the movie claims that Richard Sternberg was fired as editor, and his life ruined after he published a pro-ID article in the journal he edited. In fact, he had already resigned as editor (unrelated to the article), kept his job at NIH, and his Smithsonian unpaid position was renewed.
The site includes information dealing with creationism, because Expelled repeats lots of creationist propaganda. But don't take my word for it - read the site.
I think you need a hot towell, what are you so scared of?I have had to rely on reviews. Of course, you didn't witness any of the events of the bible - you are stuck with the accounts of others- but that is not a problem, is it?
And it is not like the ID arguments are not well rehearsed!
Pre-Lucifer rebellion? Pre-Lucifer rebellion? Scientific evidence for a pre-Lucifer rebellion? Wow.Not really. You need to educate yourself on the facts before making comments.
Hugh believes that "pre-historic" man predated Adam and that as a result of the non-existent Luciferian rebellion, the Earth was destroyed eaons ago and then re-formed.
He believes in evolution...but with a pinch of God added.