Females As Leaders/Pastors Of Males In Evangelical Churches.

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Not completely yet, but they're getting there.

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Senate passes bill to protect same-sex and interracial marriage over GOP opposition

The bill now goes back to the House for a final vote before heading to President Biden's desk.

The Respect for Marriage Act was approved 61-36, with unanimous support from Democrats and 12 GOP votes after defeating a filibuster and rejecting three amendments offered by Republicans who oppose the bill.​
The measure now returns to the House for a final vote before it can go to President Joe Biden, who is expected to sign it into law.​
The Senate vote reflects the rapidly growing public support for legal same-sex marriage, which hit a new high of 71% in Gallup tracking polls in June, up from just 27% in 1996 when Gallup first began polling the issue. . . .​
For some Republicans, backing the bill has sparked blowback.​
“My days since the first cloture vote on the Respect for Marriage Act as amended have involved a painful exercise in accepting admonishment and fairly brutal self soul-searching — entirely avoidable, I might add, had I simply chosen to vote 'no,'” Sen. Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming, one of the GOP supporters, said on the Senate floor.​
“I, and many like me, have been vilified and despised by some who disagree with our beliefs. They do not withhold bitter invective. They use their own hateful speech to make sure that I, and others who believe as I do, that we are hated and despised by them,” she added.​



It doesn't sound MAGA are "vibrating to the resonance of unconditional love." :(

Just because some men say that homos have the right to their perversion doesn't mean that the right exists.

Rights do not come from governments, but from God.
 

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You made a claim that doesn't stand up.

False.

It's hardly the first time that Christians on the far right have pulled this stunt either, aCW regularly tried for some sort of martyr status on his bonkers WHMBR! thread(s). Reality doesn't bear that out. You have the right to air your views, as do they along with others. That's the reality.

No, perverts do not have the right to spread their perversion, according to God and His word.
 

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False.



No, perverts do not have the right to spread their perversion, according to God and His word.
Of course it's not false, it's reality. Your particular views about what homosexuals should face and what rights they shouldn't have are entirely irrelevant. You do understand that, right?
 

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Of course it's not false, it's reality.

False.

Your particular views about what homosexuals should face and what rights they shouldn't have are entirely irrelevant. You do understand that, right?

My views on homos comes from the Bible:

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.Professing to be wise, they became fools,and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves,who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers,backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful;who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them. - Romans 1:18-32 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans1:18-32&version=NKJV
 

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False.



My views on homos comes from the Bible:

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.Professing to be wise, they became fools,and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves,who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers,backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful;who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them. - Romans 1:18-32 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans1:18-32&version=NKJV
Proud, unloving, unmerciful, unforgiving, boasters, undiscerning etc. Sounds a lot like plenty of the legalist lot from back then and today.

Regardless, the fact remains that Christians and homosexuals have the right to air their views in the public domain. To deny that is to deny reality.
 

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Proud, unloving, unmerciful, unforgiving, boasters, undiscerning etc. Sounds a lot like plenty of the legalist lot from back then and today.

Regardless, the fact remains that Christians and homosexuals have the right to air their views in the public domain. To deny that is to deny reality.

You missed it.

Do you need me to hold your hand on this one? Or can you use your God-given brain to figure out the relevant portion?
 

Arthur Brain

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You missed it.

Do you need me to hold your hand on this one? Or can you use your God-given brain to figure out the relevant portion?
I would recommend taking your own advice along with recognizing reality. Until you do, you're in no position to criticize anyone else's faculties as much as you like to.
 

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I would recommend taking your own advice

Since it seems you can't use your God-given brain to figure out the relevant portion, here is the same passage again, with highlights to make it easier to understand:

For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers,backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful;who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them. - Romans 1:26-32 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans1:26-32&version=NKJV

Guess what, Arty, that includes you too, because you approve of those who do the above.

along with recognizing reality.

Says the one denying it.

Until you do, you're in no position to criticize anyone else's faculties as much as you like to.

False.
 

ok doser

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On the one hand, we have multiple documented evidences of my claim, contained on a single kgov.com page.
 

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It's the law that insures equal rights regardless of sexual orientation.

Laws "created" by fallible men, as opposed to the Law given by the infallible God, which says that homosexuals are deserving of death.

It's the law of the land.

Doesn't make it righteous.

America - love it or leave it.

Irrelevant.

Try that in a courtroom.

In a just courtroom, it would be upheld. Unfortunately, we no longer have a justice system, now it's just a system.
 

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Laws "created" by fallible men, as opposed to the Law given by the infallible God, which says that homosexuals are deserving of death.
Doesn't make it righteous.
Irrelevant.
In a just courtroom, it would be upheld. Unfortunately, we no longer have a justice system, now it's just a system.

It's the only law that counts in this country, whether you like it or not.

A courtroom administering Biblical law would be no different than a courtroom administering Sharia law. Neither is acceptable.
 

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It's the only law that counts in this country, whether you like it or not.

We obey God rather than men. Or, at least, I do. You probably don't.

A courtroom administering Biblical law would be no different than a courtroom administering Sharia law.

Do you have evidence to back up this claim?

Because God's law is just.

Neither is acceptable.

God's law is just. Man's law is not.

The fact that you find God's law to be on the same level as man's law speaks a lot about what you think of Him.
 

annabenedetti

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We obey God rather than men. Or, at least, I do. You probably don't.

You can obey God in your private life without imposing your religious rules on others.

Do you have evidence to back up this claim?

Because God's law is just.

You believe homosexuals are deserving of death. So do countries that observe Sharia law.

The fact that you find God's law to be on the same level as man's law speaks a lot about what you think of Him.

City of Man, City of God.
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It's the only law that counts in this country, whether you like it or not.

A courtroom administering Biblical law would be no different than a courtroom administering Sharia law. Neither is acceptable.
Except, the biblically oriented law would be of God.
 
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