Is God sovereign? Is He omnipotent?You don't seem to know what omniscient means. If God, has chosen, at any time in the past or present, not to know something that is knowable, then God isn't omniscient. You may argue (erroniously) that God has chosen not to be omniscient, but that still makes him non-omniscient.
If you answer yes to either and then say He cannot choose to not be omniscient [according to your definition] you contradict yourself and thus negate your argument.
I also still fail to see any Scripture that states God is omniscient.
It wasn't relevant to that particular thread.So as much as you want to pretend that this is irrelevant....
See above.It is relevant.
See above.It is for two reasons.
As I told you, I'm not the only person who sees the passage in question as meaning that God did not know what was really going on in Sodom and Gomorrah.First, by arguing that God does not know, or did not know in the past, facts that were knowable, you place yourself outside the mainstreem of open theism and that makes you a pretty poor spokesperson for the view.
Also, there is the story of the sacrifice of Isaac, wherein God told Abraham that He now knew how deep Abraham's love was for Him, indicating that He did not know before, which is why the test.
And He said, “Do not lay your hand on the lad, or do anything to him; for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from Me.”
-Genesis 22:12
I don't base my theory on that; it's a secondary conclusion thus it goes the other way around. If I did not believe in the general consensus of the open view I wouldn't believe this.Two, if you base your theory of open theism, in part, on the erroneous conclusions you come to in regarding Gods knowledge of the present, then your understanding of God's knowledge of the future will be equally erroneous.
The fact that you thought otherwise belies your refusal to consider the open view in any rational way for the purposes of a valid discussion on the subject.
In other words, you don't actually care, you just want to belittle the open view.
Irrelevant to the fact that you're treating me like it is my idea and that I alone hold the view.So?
Its still wrong.
And you still haven't proved it erroneous.
Nice try. Its entirely relevant to the topic of God's omniscience. And its entirely relevant to whether or not you have a consistent theology. If you can't keep your thoughts strait in your own head, then why should any of us consider what you say?
- It's not relevant to the point of the other thread.
- My theology is consistent.
- My thoughts are perfectly straight in my own head.
- You have no basis for your accusations against the consistency of my theology and the order of my thoughts.
Only insofar as He wants to know them.So, do you agree that God knows all things that can be known?