History says Titus Flavious made up Jesus..

JosephR

JosephR

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Has anyone read Josephus,wars of the Jews and early christian history and roman history?

it seems the romans,according to history made up Jesus,buried the text about Yeshua of Nazarene... and made it reflect the roman agenda...

if you have knowledge of this please respond.....

the bible does not prove itself...but history facts and logic / reason do hold wight here..
 
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fzappa13

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JosephR said:
Has anyone read Josephus,wars of the Jews and early christian history and roman history?

it seems the romans,according to history made up Jesus,buried the text about Yeshua of Nazarene... and made it reflect the roman agenda...

if you have knowledge of this please respond.....

the bible does not prove itself...but history facts and logic / reason do hold wight here..
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Josephus' account of Jesus is fairly brief but consistent with the much more extensive biblical account. Not real sure where you got the Roman conspiracy notion.
 
Nick M

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History says 9-11 was an inside job. There is a bunch of evidence including the buildings going down due to the secret demolition.
 
RevTestament

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JosephR said:
Has anyone read Josephus,wars of the Jews and early christian history and roman history?

it seems the romans,according to history made up Jesus,buried the text about Yeshua of Nazarene... and made it reflect the roman agenda...

if you have knowledge of this please respond.....

the bible does not prove itself...but history facts and logic / reason do hold wight here..
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The Bible does prove itself - it meets the legal criterion of more likely than not ... read The Testimony of the Evangels, but yeah, you are right. Together with all the secular history, the modern tendency of the scholars to dismiss Jesus on the grounds that there is not reliable or enough secular history is kinda lame.

good to see ya mate :)
 
Daniel1611

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Who is history? This idea that history professors are history and evolutionary biologists and astrophysicists are science is out if control. History is things that happened. Science is studying the works. Certain people are not history of science.
 
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When you think on it, Christianity: the Faith, is as much a Belief System as much as any other, including that religion that secular history continues to refer to as "Christianity," as do many Believers of either of those two.

Beliefs are not reality. They are "beliefs" about "reality."

The Believer of the Faith, as to what his response is to be?

Hebrews 11:

1. Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
2. For by it the elders obtained a good report.
3. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

6. But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

That is what Scripture demands.

Matthew 4:

3. And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
4. But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

That one "believe it... or not..."

Ironically, given the uncertainty that is belief due to the mind's unavoidable subjectivity...

But men "believe" they need "experts."
 
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If you don't have faith in the fact that Buddha existed, what do you have. Nothing.
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“Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.” -- Buddha
 
Bright Raven

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quip said:
“Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.” -- Buddha
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A good saying. Now is Christianity good or bad?
 
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